Hi Betsy -- There is a difference. This one is a matter of fact, not opinion. The gene for "long coat" is a recessive and can only show up in pups if it is carried by both parents, thus the "added value" of a stud dog or brood bitch that doesn't carry the "long coat factor". On the other hand, some great animals have come out of long coat bitches, and my experience is that coated bitches often have the best bone, substance, and overall structure, and thus make fine brood bitches. That's just my personal experience and observation, and it may or may not have any independent validity. tom elkins Firethorn Temple http://www.firethorntemple.com -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Betsy Reinier Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:58 AM To: New dog list Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] GSD long coats and plush coats...there a difference? Hi. I have a question. I went on the internet to see what the difference is between a "long coat" and a "plush coat" on a gsd. Some people say that there is no difference...then another said that a long coat does not have an undercoat whereas a regular gsd has, so there is a difference. They also talked about the "tufts" of hair around the ear and/or feet. etc. etc. So I was wondering, what are your opinions? Is there a difference or are they the same? Thanks in advance. Betsy http://www.dogspoiler.com http://www.doggyknows.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================