I'm with Kay. It's important to show the performance folks what good structure looks like doing work. My favorite stories: 1) Sophie went to an obedience workshop a few months ago where the judge complemented her on her strong rear. One of the people at ringside shouted out "That's because she's not a conformation dog." My friend gleefully answered, "But no, she's a Grand Champion!" 2) When Sophie earned her HT in herding, the judge kept her working the sheep for longer than she needed. Her handler asked if we weren't finished and the judge said where everyone could hear "I just love watching her move around the sheep." Stephanie Cross DAE GCH Crosswinds Vision Quest of BrownHill TD PT TC CHIC ("Sophie"}