[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: GAITING
- From: janandmort@xxxxxxx
- To: rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:22:03 -0400
KATHY---Perfect description of some of the significant problems we see. We also
have some very exceptional animals that of pure "modern" American lines that
could win in any arena.
I think everything that has been written in this discussion is relevant as we
all are interested in the betterment of the Breed.
Kathy you mentioned suspension in all gait phases and this is indeed correct.
One thing I look for is that little "spring" in the gait no matter what gait
except when the dog is racing. Look how far the hindquarter goes- meaning how
far is the understep --and do you see that little flip of the paw at the end of
the step which is the last power being put to use not the wasted motion that we
see when the dog kicks out in the rear. Follow through should be fluent but
with the foot close to the grouund. This is seen in the walk as well as the
trot when the animal is correct.
Great discussion but everyone has their own idea of correctness and all Judges
have their own parameters of correctness. I do not think we can do away with
the subjectivity but we do have objective parameters and they should be given
top consideration.
Not to get into the German American thing again but I was on the committee when
we were considering a change in the Standard. I believe everyone on the
committee came to realize that the two standards--FCI and AKC-- were for ,all
practical purposes, the same with only minor differences.
Enough of my rambling and I wish all a SAFE and HAPPY July 4th!!!
Morton
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From: Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Janandmort@xxxxxxx; AGray40366@xxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:27 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: GAITING
Thank you Morton, I sincerely appreciate that. I hold your expertise in the
highest regard.
Yes, standing is a good indicator of gait. Again, (and my personal peeves
of many) are lack of upper arm and correct layback of shoulder....too long
hocks, often accompanied by a short or too steep croup.
I can overlook to a point a longer back and some, *some* long loin, in the
presence of long upper arm, and long, stifle, short hocks. Sometimes a
little length of back is necessary if the dog is a bit overdone in the rear.
When I say overdone, I don't mean an "eggbeater" or instep dragger...I mean
just a bit too much stifle/ femur, but otherwise short-hocked and clean.
When a dog is "bunchy" standing, short on leg, upper arm, neck, croup, you
can bet he/she will gait similarly.
We are seeing a LOT of this, rather than the long upper arms into layback
and sweeping , elastic extension at both ends...we are seeing choppy, and
dogs that look as though the head is on the wrong end.
We are as a sidenote , (since you mentioned standing) seeing a lot of
COARSENESS, in the guise of masculinity. The Standard addresses this. We
are seeing malamute- type heads where the plane of the fore skull does not
match the plane of the muzzle.....many of these dogs have little length of
neck or length of long bone to accompany it. They are often too upright on
both ends. As predictable, choppy is as choppy does, standing or moving.
*There should be balance and symmetry and fluidity* in the all gaits for
this breed. There should be effortless suspension , even at a walk, and a
ground covering gallop. We have lost much of the grace and athleticism of
the breed, in favor of prevailing show ring ideals, today. The very
"flying trot" that we all love to see, is a rarity...instead we are given,
tight leads, excessive speed, and smoke-and-mirrors. Slow them down, and
watch ...
Yes a dog with shortened skull ratios , upper arm, layback, croup, stifle,
and bone that is coarse rather than appropriate, will give you a quick
footed, racing-to appear-ground- covering , ruse of a side gait.
Watch it go loose, watch it off lead, watch it at different speeds....the
deficits will be glaring.
Kathy
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