This piece of his is much improved:) I wouldn't say "a deal has been cut". I'd say the dog owners, clubs etc., are working very hard to come up w/ a good piece of legislation. But OK, his makes a better headline <G>. This looks like a good draft. FYI, it came out now to give everyone time to review before the next meeting. The dialogue is still ongoing. Hobby breeders are protected, commercial kennels are defined and JUST MAYBE our wardens will now have the power behind them to enforce some things in the courts that they haven't been able to overcome in the past because of the feds (in the form of USDA licenses and compliance.) See, I think that's what a lot of people just don't get. IF anyone watched the Oprah show, those mills were USDA licensed and inspected according to their schedule. In order to obtain information, find violations, get a prosecutor involved, file charges a warden would FIRST have to gain access. (Good luck.) IF a PA warden brought information to a prosecutor and charges were filed, they more often than not were thrown out due to the amazing patchwork of laws, both federal and state that currently exist. I could give you name after name of puppy mill that has had citation after citation, charge after charge, year after year just thrown out while every Sunday their puppy ads are in the papers and/or you drive down country roads and see their hand painted signs propped up at the end of the driveway. To say "just enforce what's on the books" is to not have an understanding that what's on the books is a mess! Local authorities have one set of rules, state another and the feds trump. Penalties were ill defined and more often than not a slap on the wrist. I don't have trouble w/ all of the things Mr. Yates has trouble with; for instance, I have no problem denying felons a kennel license (many, many, many professional licenses/jobs do that), and I have no problem saying a dog owner can't kill their own dog. I know, I know, in the case of an accident a poor dog is going to suffer on the way to the vet. That to me is a fair trade for preventing dogs from being shot or bludgeoned to death when they can no longer reproduce, or just as atrocious, puppies that aren't sold being killed by the millers. I'm "OK" with someone not being able to obtain a state kennel license when their local municipality has restrictions against kennels. (I always have been, to me that just makes sense. If you live in a town that has zoning that prohibits kennels how can you apply for a state kennel license?) I'm "OK" with vets having to give a rabies shot. In fact, while we are at it, IF you are going to bother w/ shots at all, something that has always troubled me is that there is no ID required on the rabies certificate. We all have permanent ID for our dogs, it's required by the AKC. Why not put a chip or a tattoo # on a certificate? To me requiring certification without ID is silly. If you get bit and someone has multiple dogs and they produce a certificate that says "Buffy" had her rabies shot, how do you know it was "Buffy" that bit you and not "Taffy"? Ever see handlers produce a stack of current certs when entering show grounds that require proof of rabies and you know darned right well the certs don't match up w/ the dogs in the van? But overall, I'm glad Mr. Yates has toned it down. Thanks Stormy:) Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds In a message dated 5/3/2008 8:55:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Stormy435@xxxxxxx writes: O.K., Cathy, Fire away! :-), Mr. Yates has some postive comments about the legislation throughout this article. Storm **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================