----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> I don't know the order that they happened... A > person with a boxer was putting his dog in the crate and a friend walked > by and jokingly asked what he was doing to the dog, was he with PETA and > he jokingly answered Yeah, I'm with PETA... Someone overheard and that > is how that part got started... We had an incident happen to us on the way home from a specialty show probably 20-25 years ago. I think that was long before the dog fancy was aware of Peta. If they were around at that time I was not aware of it. We pulled into a drive in type place, opened up all the doors on the van , before we went to the window to place our order. A big rig trucker pulled in and he immediatley confronted us about the dogs and cruelty to animals, locked in cartes, etc. etc. My husband was cool, and had the perfect answer he responded with "it looks like you are a long haul dirver and have a big load." The trucker responded with "ya, so what?" My husband continued and explained that our dogs are our precious cargo and having them in crates is a safety feature. He then asked the trucker what would happen if the load on his truck shifted, with out some thing to secure that load. The trucker then realized the point of securing the dogs in a crate, and that this was necessary, and it was a safety issue. Turned out we made a point, the trucker got past his anger etc. Good thing, he was a lot bigger man than my husband..LOL. I do find that JQ pubic for the most part seems to think that these crates are cruel and unusual punishment. They just don't understand, not only the safety issue, but that most dogs like their crates. It is their "den" I have never owned a dog that did not like their crate, and often if they had free access, in or out, I would see that after laying around loose in a hotel room with us, they would seek out their own crate and go into it, with free access in or out while we were in the room. Beryl Eshom Arelee GSD Davis, CA ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================