----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Bill Basu <billgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Kathaleen Strong <inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:57:49 AM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The rumor of this week Yeah, i agree, Guzman/Moses et al should be out to pasture to make room for young newbies like myself and Olivia and Alex to re-vitalize the sport. Might i say, Kathleen, i've seen you run around the ring double handling and running all those in front of you over, perhaps you should test out the grounds in Ohio and see if you can hack it<G>, you can represent the old and creaky double handlers, just kidding my fellow Canadian friend. Bill ________________________________ From: Kathaleen Strong <inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: billgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; caggra@xxxxxxx; campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx; LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx; cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:48:18 AM Subject: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The rumor of this week Or... this might be a novel idea -- put the old handlers with creaky knees, bad backs out to pasture for a national and let all the newbies into the ring for a change and watch the re-vitalization of the sport begin. Not that it will ever happen, but novel ideas are fun to think about. Kathaleen -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Basu Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:42 AM To: caggra@xxxxxxx; campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx; LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx; cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The rumor of this week Jeff and Abbey are all under 35 the true test is to have over 45 yr old handlers with creaky knees and bad backs run the surface and give it the thumbs up. There are whole number of these "seasoned" handlers that should be the true yardstick as opposed to these young kids that can run on cement with no consequence<G>. Bill ________________________________ From: "caggra@xxxxxxx" <caggra@xxxxxxx> To: campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx; LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx; cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:47:42 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The rumor of this week Just catching up, but yes myself, Nick & Abbey Hathaway all ran the ring after the board meeting in Columbus a couple of years ago.?? No dust, very clean and cushiony.?? Joan may have already said this, but this "material" is a newer, high-tech synthetic material that many horse shows have started using.?? I did not run dogs on it, but it seemed like it would work well. I will also say that this site is one of the only sites where all or just about everything is within a?very short?walk from the arena.? You can literally walk out of the arena and within a 100 yards or so choose which direction to go to see any or all of the performance events!?? The fairgrounds itself had some cleaning up to do while we were there, but I am?certain that 2 years later and this new facility has accomplished that.? Also - for those asking me about hotels.? Yes, I live in Ohio, but I do not know which hotels will be host hotels yet.? <vbg>??? However, there are tons of hotels just west of the show site - within 5 miles Springfield hotels, 10 miles Huber Heights has a ton of hotels, shopping, restaurants etc.?? OK, that is all I know.? Jeff Pyle -----Original Message----- From: Joan Fox <campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx> To: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx; cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Sent: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 9:44 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] The rumor of this week Good grief.... it's a feeding frenzy! Calm down please. Everyone that has been to the Springfield site agrees we do not need sod. Jeff Pyle and Nick ran dogs on it. Loved it. No slipping, no smell. Bart Bartley loved it. Said the site is better than Perry. I have been to 3 horse shows there even with carts.... it's? cushiony and no dust. It is not dirt. If when Bill Burggraff goes there in April he decides we do then we will put down sod. Ohio has beautiful sod farms and I contacted them through the site just in case. The site is prepared to do this. Interesting, they want to put down netting first so as not to contaminate the sand base used at so many of the new horse facilities. It is an expensive and clean product and the dirt from the sod has to be contained. Questions: If you can do something better why would you not? If you could save the club at least $8,000 would you not? Some sites have been more than that when we have had to pay for removal. Joan --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Unedited comments about Las Vegas - ASCA Show.... To: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx, cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 7:27 PM In a message dated 11/17/2008 6:16:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx writes: heard in Beaumont that there would be no sod in Springfield. Could be a rumor <G> but we know those do not happen. I bet when Joan Fox reads this we will get an answer. She was the one who found this site. It was awhile ago so you may have forgotten Lee, but at the Columbus board meeting July 06 when the site was proposed and voted on Joan had said there would be no sod. As recent as last year it was still slated as no need for sod. Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1972 ph 409-287-3940 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont (recording secretary), Life member CKC "The greatest discovery of any generation is that a h uman being can alter his life by altering his attitude"-William James **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. 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