Morgan Lewis, RPh. Member GSDCA Board Member Canine Pet Rescue http://www.caninepetrescue.com/ "So Much to Do, So Little Time" ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: MORGAN LEWIS <shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx> To: falkrigia@xxxxxxx Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 12:50:33 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Taking dogs back I for one would like to commend Lynda and Gene for all the rescue efforts they do. THANK YOU!! Morgan Lewis, RPh. Member GSDCA Board Member Canine Pet Rescue http://www.caninepetrescue.com/ "So Much to Do, So Little Time" ________________________________ From: "falkrigia@xxxxxxx" <falkrigia@xxxxxxx> To: ELG440@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 12:19:33 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Taking dogs back Evan , Your thoughts and beliefs are ours as well. If we create it, it is our responsibility for life. Do rescue work for a while and it's easy to figure out why the problems exist. Lack of responsibility on the part of people creating life. Not just in dogs but in every species of animal. Horses are an absolute nightmare. You wouldn't believe the mares who have starved to death with their foals still trying to nurse them. Just had one nearby recently and had anyone known it, they could have been saved but no one spoke up until the mare actually died. The foal ended up dying also after herculean efforts to save him failed. We don't want government intervention???? Neither does the horse world but our local Dept of Ag Equine Rescue program has saved hundreds of horses from people who should never be allowed to own an animal in the first place. But they can't save them all. It is still the owner's responsibility first but ultmately, it is the breeder's. No, we don't want government intervention either but we're asking for it - just as the horse world is by not taking responsibility for the care of these magnificent animals. Be careful who you sell to or place with, follow up and, like Evan says, if you're not in the place to take back any dog you have bred at any time for any reason, then don't breed. Often i disagree with Evan, but sometimes i couldn't be more in agreement with him. :-) lynda Gene Workman Lynda Bragg-Workman www.falkrigiashepherds.com www.thecraftywoodchuck.com Appaloosa Acres - an Equine and Canine facility Old Fella Burke County Animal Rescue - training director "I expect to pass through this world but once. Any good thing, therefore, that I can do or any kindness that I can show to any fellow creature, let me do it now. Let me not defer nor neglect it, for I shall not pass this way again". du Mabillier (1773-1855) -----Original Message----- From: ELG440 <ELG440@xxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Mon, Jan 17, 2011 11:26 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Taking dogs back In a message dated 1/16/11 11:13:02 AM Pacific Standard Time, Stormy435@xxxxxxx writes: I have very few dogs of my breeding out there, but if necessary, I would still try to get them back or try for a good new home.... BUT.... you all need to be warned that there HAVE been cases that AC has come in to houses with over-limit dogs, seized ALL the dogs, found I have been involved with many of these cases, and they can be tragic. But, it comes down to personal responsibility. I see many issues when someone sells a dog that doesn't turn out, or dies, and they agree to refund the money but do not have it. Or, they want to wait for the next litter to get some income. I see situations where dogs bred by someone are in a rescue or worse siezed and the breeder cannot, because of personal situations, or finances take them back. I see cases where people sell a dog, and refuse to be responsible for that animal. It is simple. If you are not in a position to refund the money, if you cannot take back any and all puppies you breed, if you cannot find a home or take back an older dog due to circumstances in the lives of the owner; DO NOT BREED PUPPIES! It is not rocket science. When you bring something into this life, you are responsible for that entity. That is the reason I did not have children, had I done so, I would responsible for them forever or until one of us died. When I breed a litter, I am responsible for my actions, and I accept that whatever happens, whenever it happens, I have to be ready to take back the dog, refund the money, replace the puppy, or whatever it takes to live up to that responsibility. If my life changes and I no longer can do that, I will not breed another litter. I don't believe breeding dogs is a fundamental need or right, and with it comes responsibility. There well may come a time when we no longer can take back dogs, or refund the money, or provide a new puppy. That is the time when we will stop breeding more dogs, and then do the best we can to provide for those who still are there. I know I have purchased puppies to replace something I sold, but did not have a litter at the time. I have held checks for months to make sure a new home works out. We have taken in old dogs, replaced dogs, refunded money and tried to accept the responsibility of our acts. Everyone has to make that decision for themselves, but in my opinion, if you bring it into this world, you are responsible for it forever. Or, as my mother used to tell me, "I brought you into the world, and I can take you out." I always believed her. Not that there is anything wrong with that. 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