" Unless breeders documented dogs of
the past of what the vet found to be the cause and is shared there it no proof.
" And there in lies the problem!! Without Openness we will never be able to
prevent these diseases !
Morgan Lewis, RPh.Member GSDCAPresident Last Hope of Georgia 501c3"So Much
to Do, So Little Time"
On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 8:25 PM, Jen Proud <proudk911@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Very right, Kay!
With GDV (gastric dilation volvulus) aka bloat, the dog can’t vomit at all, as
the upper turn encompasses the esophagus. The spleen is often involved, due to
its location it gets in the way.
The two disorders are completely different areas of the abdomen; one (GDV) the
uppermost left, and the other (mesenteric torsion) is “front & center”. Both
have different presentations & causes as well… AND different survival rates due
to the difference in presentation of each.
I wonder if the mesentery has any correlation with the tightness of ligaments.
Both form from the same type of connective tissue, so if the ligaments are
loose, would the mesentery be loose? Or, if the dog is “wet”, could the
mesentery be loose too?
Jen P & her Pack doing a little brainstorming
On Feb 9, 2016, at 18:11, Kathryn Springer <KathrynSpringer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I think we have to be careful in discussing this subject as Mesenteric
torsion is different that gastric torsion. In gastric the stomach and
sometimes the spleen has twisted and in mesenteric it is the mesentaric root
that torsions and by the time this is diagnosed it is 90% too late to save
the dog. Mesenteric often presents with bloody vomit and diarrhea while I
don't think that is the case in gastric at least not in the case of the one
dog I had in the 80s that had gastric torsion at age 8 or 10 and lived to be
12+. Gastric torsion has a much higher survival rate if caught in time.
I had always heard that Scorpio progeny tended to have gastric torsion.
Just want to make sure in discussing this important topic that we are talking
about the same type of torsion, both of which are terrible for sure.
Kay Springer
