I just want to start off by saying most of you have no idea who I am but I have been in this breed for over 30 years. Showing and or being a spectator. I just recently joined the gsdca and refuse to join any local clubs because of all the bickering that goes on. This list has proven my point!! I have listened for months about the white issue and have listened to people bash other peoples dogs or their character!! This clubs memebership is going down not for the bad judging that you people seem to think but its the crap you write about other peoples dogs or how unfriendly you are to the new people at ringside!! I can honestly say that i showed up on saturday and monday at the specialties in michigan and i had 1 person introduce himself to me and that was John, so thank you John for being a nice person! I told another person congrats on their dog finishing on a previous show and all they could say was what happened to the judging today? I felt that was very poor sportsmanship and they didnt know me from adam!!! I heard on the list about bad temperment on the winning dogs and or bitches and i can say this... I didnt see it except for the one that got excused.If we want to preserve what the gsd is we need to work togeather not against eachother. My daughter is an excellent handler but she hates the shepherd ring because of the people not the breed. She has taken a 6 month old rottie and has gone wb with her and the rottie people congradulated her. The entry was around 50!!!( not to say they don't have issues in their club also) I took breed with my 12-18 shepherd and got not 1 person saying congrats to me??? What does that say about us? LOOK in the mirror people before you start bashing people or their dogs!!! Julie GCH Hylowe's Chicacoland V Cosmic CH Hylowe's Talladega V Cosmic GCH Hylowes Mystic Nightmovz CH Hylowes Take It As It Comes V Tenderluv On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "myjoygs@xxxxxxx" <myjoygs@xxxxxxx> wrote: > its called politics and lies in the hands of the judges. Doing a friend a > favor by putting their dog up whether it's temperament was not up to par or > that its quality was less then what was in the class but still manage to win. > The judging on quality is harder to determine because you can say that it > was the judges opinion for the day. But temperament is pretty much there for > everyone to see. So the judges who play politics don't show under them and > when their not pulling entries they may wake up, who knows. > Your right Janet the newbies that come into the breed and see this turn > around and walk away. > > > > MYJOY SHEPHERDS > Joyce Willis > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janet Tyler <mustlovedogs61@xxxxxxxxx> > To: gsdca list <SHOWGSD-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:11 am > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Fw: Awarding unsound temperament > > > All I AM GOING TO SAY IS OVER THE PAST YEAR THERE HAS BEEN ALOT OF > CONVERSATION > BOUT DECLINING ENTRIES, CLUBS GOING UNDER AND APPEARANCE OF JUDGES NOT > JUDGING > OGS BUT DOING FAVORS FOR FRIENDS. I'M NOT SAYING ANY OF THIS IS TRUE BUT I AM > AYING SOMETIMES WHAT APPEARS TO BE TRUE CAUSES PEOPLE TO GIVE UP. WHEN DOGS > AVE TO BE HELD UP TO BE EXAMINED AND CLEARLY ARE NOT SHOWING SOUND TEMPERMENT > HEN WHY AWARD THEM BREED OR EVEN RESERVES...IT MIGHT JUST BE A FLOOK THAT > THEY > EHAVE THAT DAY AND IN THAT MANNER.......OK I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THEN AWARD > HEM ANOTHER DAY. ENTRIES GO DOWN BECAUSE EVERYONE WORKS HARD TO BE ABLE TO > PAY > OR ENTRIES, HIRE HANDLERS AND GO TO SHOWS AND WHEN THIS HAPPENS .....WELL > ?????��� WHEN MOST PEOPLE LEAVE A SHOW SAYING WHAT A JOKE THE SHOW WAS AND > THAT > ILL NEVER ENTER THAT AGAIN AND THEY ARE TRUELY ALL VERY UPSET, THEN IT ISN'T > UST� SOMEONE UPSET..IT WHY WE HAVE LOW ENTRIES....JMHO > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > rom: Helen Franklin <helenfranklin520@xxxxxxxxx> > o: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 8:44 PM > ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Awarding unsound temperament > > f a judge awards a dog with undsound temperament, post about it! > on't write me.......write everyone...it's your duty to the breed. > etter yet, file a complaint at the show. > ===========================================================================POST > > s Copyrighted 2012.� All material remains the property of the original author > nd of GSD Communication, Inc. 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