Cyndi, Thanks for sending suggestions for the Futurity/Maturity. We always want to hear from the breeders/exhibitors. It was included in the Board Minutes that as of year 09 Laura Gilbert will begin taking litter nominations for all Regions. . There will be other changes coming down the pike. Nancy Harper National Futurity Chair ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cyndi Flautt" <caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "'gsd showlist'" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'Nancy Harper'" <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Futurity ? & suggestions First let me say, that I support our futurities.......always have, and will continue to do so.........However, :-) I do have a question and some suggestions for discussion. OK..... what is the REAL purpose of nominating the litter? ....Other than the PC making money? I know that the pedigrees are used in compiling the Red Book, but other than that??? How much $$ is the parent club making on the nominations....maybe I should say *after* Rau takes his cut? Can the PC "make it" without the litter nomination money? I bet if we cut Rau out of the picture, the PC could still come out OK even without the litter nomination money.....(just guessing, no facts to back that up!!) OK.... #2.........since changing the futurity system has been, and still is being discussed, here's a thought or two.....How about doing away with Rau as the super.....then doing away with litter nominations.....Let the clubs having the futurity collect the entries just like a specialty show, with the closing date like a specialty show...a couple of weeks beforehand........This would, #1) enable the hosting clubs to actually make money #2) enable the exhibitor to choose the futurity more at the last minute (according to the judge, the dog's coat/condition, etc.) .........The entries would be for dogs born in the certain time frame, and the four generation pedigree could be sent in with it. The club could send the pedigrees to whomever Rau is sending them to now...the Red Book folks, I guess. Enter only one futurity, but make your decision early or late, depending on your dog, and your handler. Keep the Reserve System like it is. Clubs would be working harder, but at least they would have a chance to make money rather than work hard to break even or loose. Ultimately, the show itself would remain the same, we would just get there a little differently. .....JUST A LITTLE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT <VBG> Cyndi www.carettigsd.com <http://www.carettigsd.com/> ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================