Ann: There is no denying the fact that there is a great deal of opportunity for a club to "make" money on the weekend they hold a futurity. However, depending on the date, schedule, adjoining specialty judges, location, etc., there is an equal risk placed on a futurity giving club. This risk/benefit ratio is the same risk/benefit that these clubs have for regular specialty shows; however, they don't get a "percentage" of the entry, they get the entire entry that they have to then pay their expenses from. They don't get a "percentage" of advertising, they get the entire amount. And finally, they have the CHOICE of how much they are going to spend on Trophies; they are not locked into paying for the trophies for a futurity that may or may not have enough entries to cover the costs. The point I'm making is... the GSDCA gets approximately enough money to cover the trophies from Purina. The WIN/WIN situation for everyone, including the GSDCA, the Membership and the Futurity, would be to keep everything status Quo... where the regional clubs do everything they do now to get things paid for... but take the $$'s that the Purina Sponsorship gives the club and turn that into CASH (check's paid to the owners and breeders) Prizes, for Regional and Nationals. Now imagine this scenario: Each region gets $1,000.00 - Anything over the $9,000 mark goes into a slush fund. There would be base class funds from the fund, and if there were a large entry, say over a 5 point entry for the region, then a percentage (to be determined) would be also added: - Each Class winner/placement (owner and Breeder split between the owner and the breeder/50-50) would receive the following: 1st $20 2nd $15 3rd $10 4th $5 = Class $50 12 classes (fut & mat) = $600.00 BIF/BIM $50 = $100.00 BOF/BOM $40 = $ 80.00 Reserves $25 = $100.00 The 120 difference would go into the National Fund and 9 regions x $120.00 = $1,080.00 - Futurity & Maturity Victor/Victrix would get something like: $250.00 each (again divided equally between the owners and breeders) Now... with the opportunity of winning regionally this kind of money, as a breeder, would you be more or less likely to show your puppies at futurities? I realize the expenses are far greater than what you may win back, but let's look at it this way, if you were going to show at the futurity anyway, you'd have those expenses; but if you got lucky enough to be a breeder and owner of puppy to win BIF at regional futurity - you'd get a check somewhere in the neighborhood of $70.00. Not a lot of money, but certainly enough to pay for a meal to celebrate. What if you won Futurity Victrix - $320.00 Not enough to pay to attend the National, but certainly helpful to pay some of the expenses. For those people who would not participate anyway, it won't make a difference. For those who might participate, it may make a difference if there was the return of cash prizes. For those who always participate, I think it's nice to get a cash return for your time and effort invested. But maybe that's just me. Kathaleen ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Kathaleen Strong - Inflight Kennels Reg'd - Breeders of: 1995 US GV, AOE-1996 US GVx, Jubilee ROM Check out my website edits - New Flash! http://inflight.cnc.net ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================