[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurity STAT Replies
- From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <Scharo777@xxxxxxx>, <Lealynn@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 09:50:31 -0700
I fully agree with what Liz says and knows by her stats............but.....
Along these lines I would like to know what constitutes a "big breeder"??
I've heard this term for years.....I've had people call us for information, or
a breeding
or a puppy and they often refer to us as "BIG Breeders"???
<G>
Over all the YEARS we have been in dogs.....I don't think we have ever had more
than
two bitches on the property that we use for breeding....and that is still the
case now.
They are pets, they are the show dogs and they are bred.
Typically we average six dogs.....occasionally it gets up to eight dogs because
as now
we have a couple of old dogs....two young bitches, and two bitches that are
"middle age"
used for breeding.
Our old CH. who also was the # 1 producing bitch, one is our Grand Victrix,
and one is
a bitch that was never shown because she got a chip of her nose removed by a
visiting
bitch. The older of our two studs produced our G.Vx. and the other stud
produced last year's
Futurity Victor and select dog. That is our "big" breeding
operation......period.
Occasionally we co own a bitch or two that we may get a litter from...they are
usually in
great homes of great friends.
We have bred select dogs and two Grand Victors and one Grand Victrix. Does
that make
us a "BIG" breeder??? Exactly what does "big" mean.
( I have gained some weight this year ) <G>
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
From: Scharo777@xxxxxxx To: Lealynn@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 7:21 AM
Thank you, Liz, for jumping in so quickly. I was getting ready to ask what
you were seeing.
All information is important. Carol
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In a message dated 5/10/2011 9:14:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
Lealynn@xxxxxxx writes:
I have to weigh in on this. Maybe in the old days the top 20 was represented
more by
quantity but not in recent years. The idea that small breeders are not
recognized is an old
wives tale. In fact many times I shake my head over things I read here
that I absolutely
know are not true <G>.
I think many would be surprised if they knew how few litters the top 4 or 5
Stud dogs really
sire in a year. After those 4-5 dogs, the drop off in litters is extreme with
most dogs in the
top 20 qualifying with only 1 litter. Their ranking is based on how many
dogs their progeny
beats in their class, and then an extra point or 2 for going Best In,
depending on the
entries shown.
All the statistics are there in the Red Book. Use them.
Also, there IS a section on the top 20 dogs determined by AKC major point
shows won by
progeny. And many of those dogs are also represented by ONE
progeny. So yes, again, a small breeder can be recognized if they produce
quality.
I have an admission to make on that note. I have bought every Red Book since
the first and for
all of those years I just looked at the pictures and write ups. Little did
I know, until I started
doing it, how much information can be gleaned from analyzing the statistics.
Pictures can
be doctored, write ups can be biased but statistics don't lie.
Liz
_www.lealynn.com_ (http://www.lealynn.com/)
GSDCA member since 1976
Signers of the Breeders Code
AKC Breeder of Merit
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