Okay, I really have been doing a lot of deletions on all the lists lately, so may have missed this discussion. It has come to my attention via a judge who was also previously qualified but is no longer because of some changes, that the recently changed requirements to the futurity judges requirements means that previously qualified judges of the futurity, (like myself who has previously judged futurities where my chosen winners have gone on to very successful careers including 2 GV's, MV, FV, many selects and champions), would no longer be eligible because we haven't attended the GSDCA Judging Seminar? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? Who proposed this change and WHO APPROVED IT??????????? Even the AKC grandfathers people in when they change their requirements. Furthermore, requirements for the futurity should be in place ONLY to be sure someone has good ring procedure ---- watching the GSDCA National during the Judging Seminar, IMO will not do that --- Especially when we've had judges who do not do the temperament test as prescribed, and judges who feel the need to make their choices with the standard in some kind of oblivion. I don't think people can learn anything from watching judges who do this. and I heard some of the comments from the AKC licensed judges attending this years seminar --- I was sitting right behind them during most of it. The Futurity/Maturity Sweepstakes System needs to be put BACK INTO PERSPECTIVE. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. This is a puppy match --- handlers fees should not be more than a regular show, and judges who judge it should be breeders of note and not necessarily already licensed judges. Maybe it's time we make it all amateur --- so that owner handlers, and juniors are the primary handlers and some of that money that Purina gives the club is put back into making the Futurity/Maturity SWEEPSTAKES is put into cash prizes like we used to have --- you know --- when a small futurity was around 200 entries. So. I do hope the Board of Directors, IMMEDIATELY by electronic means, PRIOR TO THE UPCOMING BOARD MEETING. get this "change" reversed, so that clubs who are trying to pick their futurity judges can have a large pool of very qualified breeders to judge this important BREEDERS puppy match, instead of "judges" who may or may not be better qualified. Kathaleen ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Kathaleen Strong - Inflight Kennels Reg'd - Breeders of: 1995 US GV, AOE-1996 US GVx, Jubilee ROM http://inflight.cnc.net http://www.inflightcoatformula.com Website creations available - Email me directly ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================