[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurities/ long
- From: Joan Fox <campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: TRAFALGARgsds@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 06:39:35 -0700 (PDT)
Good morning everyone,
Just to clarify a few points:
1) The Two Year Lead Policy as defined in the P&P will come into affect here. I
can clarify this in another post if you want when I get home.
2) You need to contact your Board members with input on such a major change.
Amy Sadfir asked for the Board to consider allowing entering 2 Fut/Mat. This
has merit in my estimation. I also think we should allow one change if there is
a change of judge.
On a personal note, I and 2 others voted against this proposed change. I did
this on the basis of the impracticality of administrating the paper work.
We are trying to encourage more clubs to handle their own Fut/Mat. to increase
their revenues and they do not need added burdens.
Also, the costs would only allow a few to take advantage of this. Think about
travel, entries at the shows with each Fut/Mat.
The more I thought about it after the bigger the problems became.
I have to admit the idea of the handlers tyring to orchestrate this did make me
laugh.
Joan
Joan F. Fox website: http://www.campaignersgsds.com
17500 Haskins Rd.
Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023
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I like the concept of being able to enter more than 1 Futurity...2 as the
ideal, 9 seems to be over kill, although I cannot imagine anyone entering 9
regions. My concern is, that where the rationale for doing so is based on
valid concerns as noted in Carolyn's comments, at the same time we need to
think of how the changes could lead to abuse, such that a relative few gain
an unfair competitive advantage.
Being able to show the dogs when they are at or most likely at their best
under the judge most likely to appreciate that dog's attributes, should be
the intent.being able to size up the competition and go elsewhere where one
believes they might have a more competitive (as Ann referenced), is a valid
concern.
If we are going to put the changes in place, I would like them to be
conditional / conditioned on the basis that changes can be
added/deleted/fine tuned on a year to year basis, unless changes are voted
in as permanent by x% of the Board. This would give us an opportunity to
determine what works, what doesn't and make adjustments without being forced
to maintain that which we might discover, does not provide for outcomes as
intended.
Although it would entail a considerable amount of extra work, if one was to
enter multiple futurities, I would like a requirement that "an intent to
show" be declared for the show one would chose to participate in, say a week
prior to the actual show date. This declaration could be by phone, e-mail or
whatever might be considered a valid, sensible tool while minimizing the
additional work load. This would minimize pre-competition assessment on the
day of the show, free up handlers, etc..but I would still allow for a change
or cancellation of the "declaration of intent to show", if there was a last
minute judging change.
The bottom line is, let's work to improve a system which allows and
encourages maximum participation, maintains an even playing field and at the
end of the day, provides the best opportunity to fairly assess the quality
of the animals shown.
Mike
TRAFALGAR GSDS LTD.
TRAFALGARgsds@xxxxxxxxx
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Msg: #11 in digest
From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Futurities/ long
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:52:20 -0700
I've been off the List for over two months.......so I know I'm coming into
this late......but hopefully I'm not
stepping out of line to give some input in response to some of the posts
below.
The idea of being able to enter TWO Futurities was my idea 4 years ago when
I was still on the Futurity Committee.....
My reasons for suggesting that an Exhibitor be allowed to enter their dogs
in TWO Futurities is very simple.....
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From: edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: holly@xxxxxxxxxxx:
showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:58 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurities
I agree with you. The people that can afford to will book handlers for
multiple futurities, leaving others
without a handler or not knowing until the last minute. People can come in
and if the competition looks
tough, pull out and go to another futurity with lesser quality. The
handlers win, the breeders lose on this
one and I was under the impression that futirities are a breeder shpwcase.
My mistake!
Ann www.edangsd.com
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