Carolyn ...the handlers charge more for these "Match" shows for one simple reason........WE'LL PAY IT!...when we stop paying it, they will stop charging it.....food, shelter, and football games are a necessity...Futurities are NOT.....lol...FB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx, ELG440@xxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:00:07 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurities/ free or not..NOT! Nominating a litter is cheaper than registering a litter or entering a dog show even without being free.  Entering a Futurity is cheaper than entering a dog show. The expense is if you do SEVERAL and hire an expensive handler for several. THAT is a CHOICE some people make.....but most of those do the same with the shows! In general most big Futurity and Maturity winners are either Champions or will be Champions. "Most".....and I did say "most"...( not all ) ......breeders are still very interested in showing their young progeny in the Futurity.   Most or many cannot compete with a big time handler with all of the progeny they might have from just one litter......let alone two. That is why I am so disappointed that the original idea of  "amateur"  was not a CLASS  added to the "Regular"  Futurity instead of made a whole SEPARATE  Futurity.  Defeats it's own purpose IMO. The interest in Futurities is still there......just the cost of them is not there for most of us.   <G> Most people call them a "Match"...........and yet the handlers charge more!   GO FIGURE!! I could see it for the dogs that win and go to compete for Futurity / Maturity Victor or Victrix. at the National......but I don't get it for just a local Futurity......... Carolyn   marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com   ----- Original Message -----   From: Sally Hayden To: ELG440@xxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:10 PM   Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The BHI award   Evan    What i hear is more people are not doing futurities and using that money to try to finish dogs   Sally   > In a message dated 8/11/11 2:15:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx writes:   > If  the OLD nomination fee stops a person from nominating. A  litter, then they probably aren't that interested   > That is the point isn't it?  How many who still breed are going to be interested in nominating a litter with the   additional costs?  I guess what we need to know if how many took advantage of the free nominations, and then   see how many  pay that didn't pay before.   >    > Evan Ginsburg   > Asgard German Shepherds   > http://www.asgardgsd.com/   > Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011.  All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post.  This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org  SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================