Carolyn and Mr. Fred, You do have a point here. No, its not a "major" win, but a showcase for breeding programs. Starting out in German Shepherds, I recall those days that the Southeastern Futurity was HUGE. It was a case to see almost entire litters of dogs and evaluate them for type. I understood the importance all to well this year at the United States Kerry Blue Terrier Club when they had their national futurity in conjunction with the National Specialty at Montgomery County Kennel Club in October. The entries were pretty good and it was a well known breeder who adjudicated. It was extra special for me because the entire litter of pups sired by the kerry blue I have from Asia was there. In fact, the dog that was BEST IN FUTURITY (like the equivilant of a FV) was his son--Wildside Lost in the Fog owned by Bille Kneale and Scott Kellogg. His brother was 2nd Right along side him. For me as a breeder first and breeder last, its important to me to see what dogs I feel are producing the type I like and see very promising puppies. True, i didnt get a fancy 5 point major, but I did get a nice ego massage and was bustin' with pride when someone pointed out.. "Hey the top 3 winners in this Futurity are sired by your dog and they all have Major wins as puppies... " (and the dog hasnt even finished his title in America yet!!!!). And to me, thats what its all about. ====================== www.BlackHawk-Farms.com Northern California American Saddlebred Horse Association Vice President (Class of 2007) --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================