From a breeders stand point I would choose the dog with a better front as they are more difficult to maintain in a breeding program. Keep in mind I am not talking about putting up a dog that drags his rear and kicks his tail..I am talking about a dog that just lacks opening his hocks "ideally", but still gets under himself nicely and drives off the rear and does show a good degree of power in the rear, enough that it propels him forward. Christine hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Steve and Christine Grainger WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM > [Original Message] > From: Bill Basu <billgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 8/12/2007 2:42:28 AM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Front or Rear??? > > When i first started out in GSD's i was mentored by a number of people who appreciated a great front extension. So in my early years i put an emphasis on a great front(my friend Flower boy will tell you i wouldn't show a dog that didn't have a great front). As the years passed and i met others in the breed, and great rear drive gained in importance. So i have question for you judges out there. > Let's take the hypothetical situation that you have two dogs that are equal in every attribute but : > > Dog 1: has a great front extension but does not fully follow thru in the rear(stops before fully extending). > > Dog 2: has great rear follow thru but "pounds" in front due to a lack of front extension.. > > Obviously both dogs are unbalanced between front and rear, although for different reasons. This happens often at shows, but the smart handler compensates by either having Dog 1. pull into a tight lead to simulate rear drive or Dog 2 being held up and carried along to avoid "pounding" > Let us assume that the judge is very smart and requires the loose lead and so the handler can't fool you. Which one do you choose? Frankly i don't have an answer, but would be interested in your thoughts!!!! > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================