I tend to be rather positive with people - and by the time I am done having a wonderful time with them, they are happy they have a nice dog but are reconsidering the cost of everything. I suggest that they ask their vet for a price list - and I know most of the companion vets here will go ballistic at the thought of anyone breeding their bitch. I just casually mention the c-sections, the testing, the sleepless nights, the cost of food, the messes to clean up, etc. But all the time I explain that if you have the passion to breed quality dogs and the will to raise them properly, socialize them properly, etc, then it is wonderful. Usually before I am done, they are pretty sure they don't want to do this. I never want to make people feel their dog is inferior because if they love their dog, it certainly is a good dog for them. But they do need to hear about the reality of breeding. Ruth (sitting here watching puppies grow) ________________________________ From: "grnram415@xxxxxxx" <grnram415@xxxxxxx> To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, October 11, 2009 12:01:31 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: From puppies to Stud Service They don't realize that "princess" may need a c-section, or a trip to an ER vet on a Sunday in the rain at 2 am . Nearly all, re-think the position and decide maybe a puppy instead is a good idea. I would rather try to keep a new person interested, but educated.? I found out long ago, that if a breeder or stud owner insults someone , they just go somewhere else. I couldn't agree more.? I run into that person at almost every AB dog show.? They want to breed Princess so they can have one of her puppies, etc..... I first ask Princess age and if she's had her hips/elbws x-rayed and OFA'd.? Then, I ask about her pedigree and her breeder.? Most have no clue what I am talking about.? Since I have mostly bitches, I go on to explain how much money I invest into each breeding.? Pre-breding testing for brucellosis and such, progesterone, then ultrasounds and all the stuff needed to do it right.? Then, there is the extra feeding during pregnancy, whelping and nursing.? Unexpected costs, like a c-section or fading pups.? The cost of raising the pups for 8-10 weeks before they sell them.? And, what happens if you have no buyers.? Are they willing to give away the pups?? I then give them my business card.? I have yet to get a call from any of these folks.? Yes, they may have gone elsewhere, but at least I gave them something to think about.? And, maybe, a bit of education. I dn't think I am being elitist.? If these owners stepped up and provided the testing, pedigree info and were willing to acknowledge the expenses involved in having a litter, I think I would take them more seriously.? But, once the $$ become involved in breeding,they usually change their minds :-) Laura ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================