HELLO --- This is NOT evolution as such, but what WE do -- "Selective breeding" Simple as 1, 2, 3. I know, been there, done that, with so many many kinds of BIRDS, ANIMALS, FISH, (I've never been in LOVE with reptiles, so I'm not quite as experienced with that group, but the amphibians, yes, a time or 2) I've done so many different kinds of breedings and trainings - YEP --- you folks are right -- I DO NEED TO START THAT BOOK OR 2!! Just think -- HONEST --- "I lived with a real WOLF for 14 years"!! Oh how wonderful it was. Ok, I'll geaux. Norma no L but a lot of memories ----- Original Message ----- From: "sheila lieberman" <dgshwpromo@xxxxxxxxx> To: <rockannand@xxxxxxx>; <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 4:39 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: From Wolves to Dogs The Soviet study on foxes proves that the change can happen that quickly. The study was repeated in the 80's same result When you lower testoserone, by picking the least aggressive animals for breeding, you change the appearance just as much. It seems that hormones affect appearance more than was previously realized. Sheila >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kate Syssoloff <rockannand@xxxxxxx> wrote: My PBS stations carried Part I of the latest doggy program last nite...it's called From Wolves to Dogs... and it was very interesting. The claim is made therein that we didn't domesticate wild wolves...not exactly..but that they exposed themselves to us for our "easy pickin's"... Anyway, Part II hasn't aired yet...so keep an eye out for Part I, and then also for Part II. The white markings that showed up in an experimental breeding (foxes, if memory serves) might interest y'all. Peggy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bas and I tuned in to it also. Said that the dog originated in eastern Asia near Siberia. And, that the wolf evolved in only one life time (human's lifetime)...... very quickly. They just simply changed from wolf to dog. It didn't take thousands of years, but just about 80. Can that be true? Kate ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================