[ SHOWGSD-L ] Fred--Your Help Here Please-- Fault-Free-Yeah Right!!!
- From: chsweetsun@xxxxxxx
- To: gsdlady28@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:31:23 -0500
Hey, Fred, can you give me a bit of help here?? I don't think I got my point
across properly.
With Your infinite wisdom, perhaps your thoughts could help out on this idea of
a list of dog's that produce faults.
Was it not you who said, what good is a "perfect" dog if it's brothers &
sisters are pieces of Crap? You develope a list of dogs that don't produce
this thing or that thing, yet their sisters produced it, or their brothers were
one of those...????
Don't take me wrong...I'm ALL for a Stud that produces Very Few problems...but
I just think people want to produce the Perfect dog, and it Ain't gonna happen.
Tari Kridler
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Home of 2003 Amer & Can GVX Kridler's Ruby and her Father 2 x Sel. Amer & Can
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-----Original Message-----
From: gsdlady28@xxxxxxx
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:51 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Fault-Free-Yeah Right!!!
You are missing the point of a "fault free list" it is not a list of dogs that
dont produce any faults....of course no such list would exist unless the dogs
were never bred! It is a list of what faults dogs either DO or DON't produce,
and it would be "doing your homework" to have and use such a list! It would be
used for "weighing the good with the bad" and obviously you have to know your
own lines for it to be of any use to you. I DO know my lines and missing teeth
is something I am concerned with....if I had a coated bitch or a bitch with a
very close coat, then I would be concerned with the coat factor...if I had
bloat
or torsion in my lines, I would be extra careful about that in a stud...it is
all about not throwing out the baby with the bathwater...just because a dog or
bitch produces a fault doesnt mean you dont breed them, depending on how
serious
the fault was, you breed them carefully and do your homework on the stud you
choose,hence a list of what a male does or d
oes not produce would be useful when you are trying to offset faults or
improve
a problem in your lines...and as far as why a list of studs and not bitches...I
would say most stud dog owners dont go hunting down the perfect bitch to breed
to their boy, and then ship them across the country to breed to said
bitch....it
is the bitch owners who would find the list most useful, and they would be
aware
(ideally anyway) of the faults their bitch does or may produce, and THAT is the
whole point of having such a list! For people who DO want to do their homework
and KNOW their own lines and faults they are trying to outbreed....It would
simply be nice to have some kind of a list of popular studs and what they are
known to produce or not produce...like i said earlier, we all kind of have this
list in our heads when we are looking for a stud anyway....
"Gee, I like dog X but I heard he throws blues, and I know I have blues back
there so not him....and I like dog A, but I heard he throws mega, and even
though I dont have that problem, I dont want to get into that....hhhmmmm I
really like dog B too, and I dont think he throws coats or blues and he has
everything I want...I wonder if he throws missing teeth, because I know my
bitch
does...." So then you ask the stud owner and hope they are honest, and ask
others who have bred to him if they got any...etc...
It is a tedious process sometimes, as you go through reviews and make a list of
dogs you like, and then cross off the dogs who would double up on faults you
already have or are trying to stay away from. It would just be nice if we all
were a little more open and honest and shared info on what we DO know...there
are enough "unknowns" and suprises out there when you breed as it is....a
refrence list putting info that is known but scattered and fragmented on stud
dogs together all in one place would be an invaluable tool for breeders who are
seriously trying to imrove their lines and the breed in general....JMHO
Maggie Marshall
Aeval German Shepherds
http://hometown.aol.com/gsdlady28/index.html
updated 03/02/2007
Msg: #6 in digest
Subject: Fault-Free-Yeah Right!!!
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 08:48:05 -0500
From: chsweetsun@xxxxxxx
I'm sorry, but I'm having a problem with people wanting a "Fault-free" list.
First of all, there is NO such thing as any of our Studs being Fault Free.
From the Mouth of Wisdom- Joan Ford- IF any dog is bred enough, you will find
faults.
If we limit the Gene pool anymore than it already is, we may as well throw in
the towel.
Yes, there are missing teeth out there, there are ALOT worse problems than
that.... but, you must always weigh the good with the bad. Prioritize your
problems before you do ANY breeding. Know your own lines and work on that.
Always look at your dogs brothers & sisters, as well as the studs-if possible.
IF you think you are going to find a Stud dog that will give you No Bloat, No
Megaesophagus, No missing teeth, NO Off-Temperaments, No heart trouble, ---- oh
my, the list can go on & on & on..... Well, wake up people!!! You will be
trading one fault for another. If I'm trading missing teeth for most of the
other horrible Crap that is out there...I'll smile. AND GUESS WHAT Folks, this
is 100% true in Every breed of dogs, not just our Beloved GSDs.
Tari
www.showgsds4sale.com (NEW* Website for Free Advertising SHOW GSDs)
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