Don't the same people do them all anyway but two different weekends and expenses and time for Clubs and members? It just gets done in ONE weekend. Big enough entry.....you can give your Jr. handlers a little pocket money to set up Sat. and break down everything on Sunday.....<G>.......and if we exhaust the handlers they might be more motivated to give the Jrs. a couple of their dogs. < BIG G> Also......I doubt the Specialty Clubs and All Breed Clubs have the same people in Oregon? Irregarless, my point is NOT to follow Oregon..........just to consider other options instead of just saying shows are failing. You can decide it won't work .....or give it some thought and consider it. It appears Oregon did. As it is.. Instead of finishing one show weekend and then turn around and spend the next few meetings preparing for the next 'set' of shows.....you would be done in one weekend and free up Club meetings and another weekend of work and expenses and printing and mailing, etc. and TWO weekends of wearing out club members. Add to that .....now Clubs have to meet AKC requirements in between just to now qualify to put on these shows. That takes up more work and weekends for members. If it's all compacted to one weekend of four shows.......Clubs can overlap in helping each other and getting it all done once and for all. Less Printing, Less arm Bands, less mailing, less setting up less putting on Luncheons........?? Consider Exhibitors as "clients"......They are the reason we put on shows? Give them four majors and they will come. <G> Give them double the long drives and Motels they pay for....handler flights and lodging they pay for.....double the hours of driving.....and less choices for judges as the payoff........I'm not sure what I'm missing here? It makes a longer day yes.....for everyone...yes....but when it's OVER......it's OVER.....and you don't have another weekend like that waiting for you a few months later.............? Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com . ----- Original Message ----- From: Gsdbroon@xxxxxxx To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; bedkar@xxxxx ; pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx ; lebrowngsd@xxxxxxx Cc: windwalkergsds@xxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:15 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] SHOWS In a message dated 5/14/2010 10:23:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: See what Kay mentions.........FOUR All Breed Shows and TWO Specialties.....ONE Drive and location. Time to start thinking outside the box!!! Carolyn, ________________________________________________________________________ FOUR SHOWS & TWO SPECIALTIES sounds great to the exhibitor...........but what about the people who are putting them on? The same people will have to do all 4 shows. Specialty clubs are folding because fewer new people are entering dog shows and the current members are aging. Find me the box, please! viv =========================================================================== POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================