My admiration goes to all of you who regularly foster dogs that others don't want. My daughter, the groomer, had a customer with a young male gsd. No manners at all. I called him crazy dog. We'd take him out front and let him run for a while so he could settle down for a bath. I told my daughter, "this one will end up in the shelter". Kara advised more exercise and obedience training for the young male (not neutered). Not bad people just too busy and too inexperienced for a take charge dog. They bought a shock collar. No improvement--in fact one day the dog raced through the door and knocked down his big burly owner. They said "that's enough" and asked Kara if she could find him a home. We have lived with this dog for 3 weeks and is a bundle of powerful energy. We had him neutered. We're trying to civilize him (obedience basics and lots of running and games) . We hope to find him a home with someone who knows obedience work and can offer the exercise he needs to dissipate all that energy. He likes people a lot and kids. He likes other dogs but he's so boisterous he is not ususally welcome to play. My male wants NOTHING to do with him. We're doing what we can but he needs devoted social rehab. If you'd like pictures send me a private email. My prayer is that the right family comes along for this guy and he learns what a dog is supposed to do. Listen, enjoy, relax, play, work. Again, you real foster/rescue people are inCREDible! this is WORK!! :-:-) Karen Lollar ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================