NO..you miss the point. It's just not experiencing "pain and suffering"........ it's experiencing the whole thing. Maybe that's why we are having a problem with getting new people in to the Sport.......they want to experience it from a screen and keyboard...... ---Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus ---bedkar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ---VISIT OUR WEBSITE:http://home.earthlink.net/~bedkar ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Cochran To: bedkar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;sally@xxxxxxxxxxx;showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 12/17/2006 12:25:30 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: For the New People tot he breed I agree but times change and if we want to include youth in our sport then we will have to communicate with them in a way that they understand. If we insist that they only way they can be a part of the sport is through pain and suffering then I doubt we will attract many young people to pass the knowledge on to. Terry Kay Reamensnyder <bedkar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: No argument with anything you say.........but reading on the Internet does not make you an "informed dog person". Knowledge is only part of the deal.......experience teaches you things that no book can ever tell you. For example: you can "Google" the term "euthanesia" and get all kinds of information about "how to do it"....clinical information....but until you cradle that limp warm body of your best old friend and kiss that gray muzzle for the last time, you will never truely understand euthanesia. If you can accept and deal with that pain and grief, and move forward, then you have truly learned something. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================