I am not commenting on the PC website - I am just a firm believer of Experience is the best teacher.- sally -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terry Cochran Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 1:20 PM To: sally@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: For the New People tot he breed Kay, When we started out there was no Internet. We have the young ones being raised in the Information Generation. They want to be able to surf on the web for the information they seek. I see no advantage of playing Hide and Go Seek with people who may be interested in showing dogs. Not all show people have to be breeders. Not all breeders bred for the show ring. Not all breeders bred for the American show ring, not all breeders bred for the specialty ring. These are the things that the PC website can address. Terry Sally <sally@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: This is one of the best and truest things said on this list in a long time For those who want to be in this or any breed readmit , print it out and keep reading it. Sally -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kay Reamensnyder Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:45 PM To: Terry Cochran; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: For the New People tot he breed Terry, We have all "been there and done that".........the truth is, if a person wants to learn about German Shepherds and breeding/exhibiting, they will find a way to get the information. NO....an established kennel is NOT going to sell them a "hot show prospect"....why would they trust an "unknown". A busy exhibitor/breeder will take someone under their wing and teach them...IF they see a real effort being made to learn. We have both been there, Terry. Maybe the first dogs aren't the greatest....but you keep at it. You go to shows....you keep your ears and eyes open........and you learn. True dog people didn't get there because some one "talks to them". It's a long involved process....and you "pay your dues" as the saying goes......it involves "the perfect litter by pedigree" that turns out being the mess of the century.....the gorgeous pup, with so much promise, that dies suddenly..... the feeling of finishing your first champion.....your first Group One, Best in Show, or Select.... staying up all night whelping a litter........finding out your Top Ranked bitch has breast cancer.....etc. And then one day you realize that you have gained a wealth of knowledge about this breed, with your blood, sweat and tears and you are amazed by what you need to learn yet........ but, you have stayed the course and you are ready for more. This is a lifetime commitment.......a passion that most can not or will not understand. If you truly want it, it will come to you. ---Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus ---bedkar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ---VISIT OUR WEBSITE:http://home.earthlink.net/~bedkar > [Original Message] > From: Terry Cochran > To: > Date: 12/17/2006 9:34:53 AM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] For the New People tot he breed > > We all have been in the position of appearing to be rude when someone wants to talk dogs when your dog is in the ring. Or in the position that the questions being asked have taken you a lifetime to figure out and you no longer have the energy to answer them the way they should be. > > So.. > > Why not have a web page on the PC website that is labeled IF YOU ARE NEW TO THE BREED AND THE SPORT OF SHOWING GSD'S. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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