I guess 4 days is enough... Let's see...how many members on "Da List"??? 2000 +? Final tally to the question...How many Judges on "Da List" have been to at least 5 Herding Trials? Then I posed the same question to "Da Lister" exhibitors. Final tally...Judges...14...Exhibitors...35 = 49 I guess all I can say to those of you who have not been...go. Judges old and new will see the GSD move off lead and in balance according to its structure. If the structure is incorrect the dog will labor and will have greater difficulty herding the sheep. If the dog's structure is correct...you will see true ease of motion and virtually the exact requests of the Standard when it comes to motion. I think to the term "Poetry in motion" and it tis. No leash, no handler holding em up, and no break neck speed is required. As a matter of fact I must pass this on. Jennifer did her 3rd provisional show Thursday in Utah. Before judging commenced she met the AKC Rep who would be critiquing her performance. When he mentioned double handling...she simply said..."I'm involved in Herding...if I could...I would remove handlers and owners alike to see them move as they do when they herd sheep. But since I can't do that...I will see them going as loose and naturally as possible." He smiled...said no more...and at the end of the interview gave her all 3's and recommended her for "Regular Judging Status". I am a very proud hubby of a very fine new Judge. Paul Visit Rivendell on 'da web' at www.rivendellgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================