On that point I totally agree. I keep my flame suit next to the computer, because I'm one of those people who feel that only the best should be bred. Only the best temperment, the best structure, the best work ethic. Minimum flaws can't be helped, and sometimes are outweighed by the good. But spooks are never a good thing. Lazy dogs, shy dogs, ones who need bundles of supplements, drugs, special diets, aren't worth the trouble. Anyway, I wish I had a dog that could do it all. I might have that dog, but I can't do it all. Each of these events, probably with the exception of obedience, are a big money drain. By the time I finish my boy, will I be able to do anything else? Nothing is wrong with him, that he shouldn't finish, but I'm not exactly in a place where majors abound, nor to I have freedom to travel vey far, nor loads of extra money for big time handlers. This will take some time, or a few lucky breaks. In the meantime, my very keen obedience dog is sitting at home devouting time to excaping his kennel, until I can get the other boy finished. He should have had a title by now, if I hadn't ventured into the breed ring. And honestly, as far as herding goes, where could I even find that quanity of sheep? I'm fortunate if I can a few sheep to take an instinct test. We assume that these dogs are not capable because no one is doing it. I'm telling you that there is a clear difference in the grip between my american dog and my german dog. The american has as a better grip, and hold. Darned if I can get him to release:) Boy, wouldn't I love to take him out on the field and try to prove people wrong. I just don't have the time or opportunity to focus on Sch, OB and the Breed ring at the same time. People assume that we don't do--because we don't have. We don't do--because everything takes time, and to do each forum properly is complicated. There are those wo can. I can't quite figure out how. I work from 7:30 to 4:30, go to dog practice in the evening, church events several times a week, plus parent conferences, after school programs, etc. How would I manage? Denise W. http://www.showgermanshepherds.info for show and performance (join my site ring-follow the link) ________________________________ From: Jackie Short <marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> To: denwil2007@xxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 8:06:47 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Film on the destruction of the GSD There are some who think that the only valid kind of "work" is Sch. I used to think that...I no longer do. I love schutzhund...but I can't afford it. I think it's an extremely useful and viable breed test when you can....but as a college student I cannot afford the 3 hour drive one way to train for a couple of hours. My wallet won't have it...I have to give up an entire day of work to go train for an hour or two. It also requires me getting up at 5 or 6 AM, and my Tourette's doesn't allow for that much anymore. I think agility, advanced obedience, and tracking are viable ways to test a dog's temperament, biddability and reactions to pressure. I also think it gets our dogs thinking, and there is just NOT enough of that anymore. I showed a bitch as a favor for somebody and I was absolutely ASHAMED to be on her. One of my friends thought I was being set up. She dropped her head down, spun in circles like a looney toon, stress panted like a maniac, and when she DID move she kept her head down and paddled in front as she hard charged her collar. The excuse I got? "She needs a specialty ring." ...No, she needs to be spayed so she doesn't pass on the crazy. -- Jackie Marcato Shepherds Where beauty is found in function http://www.jackieshort.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================