In a message dated 12/5/04 5:50:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx Tom brings up an interesting point. To fully evaluate our breed and the state of health, perhaps we do need to factor in the show issue. This is but one reason that studies that are to be used to establish causation are so difficult to do. I understand that every single serial killer ate peanut butter between the ages of 3 and 6. They are still trying to establish the connection. But, from the statistics it seems likely that if you never feed your child peanut butter, the odds are much improved he will not enter into a life of crime. It sure seems reasonable to me. Parents take heed! Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together Evan: Exposing our dogs to outside influences at Dog Shows, Training Classes etc. is why Number One we need to be very concerned about breeding in Strong Auto-Immune Systems in our Breed... barb williams ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================