This was a pretty interesting topic and I think I will add my 2 cents, which is just my own opinion, so Evan, no wise cracks please. (Evan is always the first one to criticize me for whatever I write, which is probably why I don't write that much---one day Evan will stop criticizing me and then I will be upset that he stopped). Go figure. LOL Anyhow, when I sell puppies, of course I prefer to sell them to owners who have fenced in yards. Will I sell a puppy to someone who doesn't have a fenced in yard? The answer depends on the character of the people. I myself (when I was a newly wed) bought a GSD puppy without having a fenced in yard. But we certainly put one up soon after purchasing the puppy!!!!!!! I don't think they had the invisible fences at that time, (yes, I'm THAT old), but I doubt I would have bought that because of the fact that it doesn't stop people and other animals coming into your yard. I think it is very dangerous for people and animals to be able to come into your yard, but your dog(s) cannot go out. How could your pet ever defend itself against a pack of coyotes or something like that? Anyhow, I now fence my yard and house like a fortress. I don't want my dogs leaving and I don't want anyone coming in that hasn't been invited. In fact, when I was putting additional fencing around my property 2 months ago, I had the fence company take down the double gate because it was not sturdy enough for me (or my dogs, of course). I had them take it down at my expense and put up another panel and just a single gate, that has 3 locks and is practically immovable. You would never even know there is a gate there. Anyhow, that's how I am now. I am for protecting our beautiful GSD's and keeping my liability down! Thanks for listening. Cheryl Olson/Tindrock **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================