GSD can't be compared to Cats in breed characteristics. Cats are long and flexible for leaping and climbing and slipping around branches and into smaller spaces. Their limbs are powerful in a thicker gripping way than canines and their back is not utilized the same for long distance trotting and stamina......but more for the flexible BURST of acceleration and leaping on prey. The GSD length does not come from the middle-piece but from the BREADTH of the front and rear quarters......for power and strength. The length does not come from the back or loin. I don't know anything about Dals except that they don't have the same broad quarters and long croup. If you are talking about breeding I don't believe it is easy to breed out a bad back in the GSD!!! In my opinion I can recognize some lines by the poor backs. It's a serious weakness for the dog breaking down over time. Their back is their support system and the bridge that transmits their rear drive and powerful thrust to the forehand. To me a bad back IS mediocrity........a weakness to tire a dog for any work. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jessica MacMillan To: edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx ; zanebgsd@xxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; stormy435@xxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:46 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Fault Finding Leads to Mediocrity! Some of the best moving dogs in lots of breeds have soft toplines and Ann is right, all big cats, when they are moving have soft backs - allows for flexibility... I know what the GSD standard says, but if you have a dog with a correct gait and a soft back, I would NEVER fault him as toplines are easy to correct... As for one serious fault on an otherwise great dog - I think probably EVERYONE in this breed can think of a great influencial dog with a fault. It just depends on the fault... And you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater!! All it leads to is a breed full of mediocrity and D*G knows there is enough mediocrity in dogs as it is... Jess M.Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com)& The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC)Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC _________________________________________________________________ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================