Now this is what I thought also as I read the comparison of a big cat's movement and our GSD's Yes, the build of each animal is different, and for good reasons. Cynthia reflects these differences showing the reason for such. For many years I've lived with all kinds of critters and it is very true that their initial "build" will allow them to do what they're known to do in the nature of things. Hey, just as an easy to see thingy --- "why do frogs have longer back legs than their front ones"?? Then as we look closer at a slow moving turtle, what does it have - a protective shell. JMHO The range of worse faults against lesser ones is something that really needs to be a part of our lives in studying the "use" of each part of each particular being. OK -- your trivia for the day!! Norma no L ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia VanDenBerge" <vande001@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Show GSD List" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:15 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Fault Finding Leads to Mediocrity! Hey Jess, I think that comparing big cats to GSDs is apples to oranges. As Anne, I think, pointed out, cats are designed for fast spurts of energy, leaps and such. GSDs are all day trotters. I submit that a dog with a soft (or weak) topline will be less able to do their job efficiently and will break down eventually. The back is what contributes to the suspended transmission of the GSD. It is relatively short even though the ratio is somewhat long. The length comes from croup and shoulder. Look at big cats; long spine and pretty short croups with moderatley angled shoulder. I believe (and this is only my thought) that the powerful transmission you see in big cats comes from the oversized paws and muscles in the shoulder and rear. It would seem that this overrules the length of the spine...if you put a GSD set of legs and feet on a big cat it would surely move crappy with that long back. Just my thoughts for what they are worth. Cynthia --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Jessica MacMillan <spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Some of the best moving dogs in lots of breeds have soft toplines and Ann is right, all big cats, when they are moving have soft backs - allows for flexibility... I know what the GSD standard says, but if you have a dog with a correct gait and a soft back, I would NEVER fault him as toplines are easy to correct... As for one serious fault on an otherwise great dog - I think probably EVERYONE in this breed can think of a great influencial dog with a fault. It just depends on the fault... And you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater!! All it leads to is a breed full of mediocrity and D*G knows there is enough mediocrity in dogs as it is... Jess M.Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com)& The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC)Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================