I have been talking to the List administration. There has been a perception that Libby, Gary and Patty were removed from the List due to the content of their posts. That has never been true. There was a problem with providing posts to people not on the List. In one case, copies of the forwarded posts were shown to me, and convinced me that there were violations. However, there also have been many hostile and angry posts over the last year, and often done due to passion and a true belief in the problems of our club. Those have been allowed until they get to the point of harming others, then the administrators have shut down the "thread" to protect the other individuals on this List. I also have been the subject of those controls and many of the attacks, and admit that the action taken was reasonable. I never mind if someone criticizes me, but I know it can be very harmful to someone more sensitive than I am. Because of the need to protect us, and to keep this List "closed" when posts are published it threatens our independence. We need to know we are free to post, without it being used against us by someone not subscribed to the List. However, the administration of the List does understand the reason for the violation of the rules as to forwarding posts and feels confident the problem has been addressed and our members will not continue doing so in the future. I have been informed that Patty, Libby and Gary may be restored to the List and will be encouraged to continue to share with us their information ideas and emotions, and avoid violating the List rules. It appears it was never the intent of this List to censor anyone, but rather to provide us a forum to exchange ideas, theories, information and friendships. We need to stay vigilant to continue to promote our breed, our club, and our members. I also understand on request Bill and Ken Tank will also be allowed to rejoin our band of merry men, and a few semi-merry women. Thank you to the administrators for this reconsideration, we need passionate members, even if they are not in agreement with us on our positions. The posting of our posts to nonmembers remains a problem to address if it occurs in the future. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================