This is a good point..as the lab is also a versatile breed..there are very big differences between field trial Labs and conformation Labs..yet the conformation doesn't seem to suffer from the diversity within the breed..entries always seem large. this breed is too subject to similar health issues..and that hasn't hurt its popularity nor has it discouraged people form showing in conformation. I know there has to be politics involved within their breed..just like ours.. Perhaps one factor is that this breed is not handler dominated like ours is. since extensive gaiting is not involved in this breed..more owners can handler their own dogs. One other thing to consider..the GSD is probably one of the most difficult breeds to breed correctly. Having only been slightly involved in one other breed I can tell you that..success in many cases can be met more quickly in breeding many other breeds than in GSD's. Being successful is a driving force in keeping people interested in any dog sport. Also..success is more quickly met in performance venues..than in conformation, perhaps this explains its growing popularity. More importantly..maybe attitudes are different within other breeds that ours. We spend a great deal of time arguing over "my dog is better than your dog" instead of embracing the diversity with the breed. Performance people trash conformation people and vise versa. We pay lip service to the total dog.but performance people don't have selects on their dogs..and conformation people don't have performance titles on theirs..yet each wants to believe they are correct in their "interpretation" of the standard and what the they feel the breed was "meant" for. this has nothing really to do with the GSD..but has much more to do with overblown egos and wanting to be "right" and arguing for the sake of arguing. As with most problems it is "human" related..thank goodness the GSD will thrive despite us! C.Grainger > [Original Message] > From: Peggy <pmick@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <susan-sullivan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 4/13/2005 10:27:08 AM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: FYI > > I'd like to know where the Labrador Retriever Club of the Potomac landed > in that list...that is a single breed show, and it is the largest > Labrador show in the world. Not even a National Club specialty, > Potomac has long been the true breeder's showcase...attended by Lab > enthusiasts from all around the globe. And it's held outdoors in April, > in this part of the country, which means it can be blistering hot one > moment and snowing the next...but the show always goes on no matter what > the weather. Potomac's fall specialty, referred to as the "no frills" > specialty, is as large as the GSDCA national...and that's outdoors, too, > in this same area, in October. > Peggy > > SUSAN SULLIVAN wrote: > > >Rita, > >It is interesting information. One thing to consider, however, is that AMerican Spaniel Club is a specialty club of ALL the spaniel breeds, not just one and is held in conjunction with Westminster. There may be others such as Poodle Club of AMerica which includes all three varieties as does the Collie Club of AMerica. Some of the specialty clubs could also be group specialties such as the New England Toy Breeds club. We are still awfully low for a breed with as large a registration as we have. We need to look at other breeds and see what they are doing right. > >Susan > > > >Subject: Re: FYI > > > >Ellie Carson sent this info in her Red Book board report. I asked her if I could post to the list. It is food for thought. > > > >.... There were over 2000 Specialty (conformation) shows in 2004. The GSDCA National ranked #51 with 244 entries (in 2003, we were #45 with 270 entries). The top 25 Specialty shows by entry ranged from the #1 American Spaniel Club with 740 entries to #25 Irish Wolfhound Club of America with 322 entries. Interestingly, there were 4 non-national club specialties in the top 25. > > > > > > > >Rita Sandell > > > > > > > > > > > >Susan w. Sullivan > >Firethorn Farm > >German Shepherd Dogs > >Where Form Follows Function > > > > > > > > > >=========================================================================== = > >POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. 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