These people are not breeders they just want a winner and the breed means little or nothing to them. They are in every breed of show animals. We have always had them but never to the organized extent we do right now. Joan --- On Wed, 11/19/08, VSabiaB@xxxxxxx <VSabiaB@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: VSabiaB@xxxxxxx <VSabiaB@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: FW: Nationals To: inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 7:17 PM In a message dated 11/19/2008 11:33:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: What we have is... breeders who are not being independent, free thinking individuals. Instead we have a majority of breeders following the edicts of a handful of handlers or cartels. Of course this is not "every" breeder out there, but those free thinking individuals are becoming few and far between. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. This is true, the majority of breedings anymore have the same sire or are close related to that sire. Someday there is going to be nowhere to go in our breeding program :-( Vicki _Von Charisma German Shepherds_ (http://www.voncharismags.com/) My sunshine does not come from the skies, It comes from the love in my dogs eyes. **************Check out smokin¢ hot deals on laptops, desktops and more from Dell. Shop Deals (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1213345834x1200842686/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;209513277;31396581;l) ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================