[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: FROM ME...LONG...AS USUAL BUT ...
- From: Kathy Potter <tokaye@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: onaluzlead@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:37:49 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
THANK YOU DONNA FOR ONCE AGAIN BEING THE VOICE OF REASON!!! AND YES - I'M
YELLING.
KATHY
-----Original Message-----
>From: Donna <onaluzlead@xxxxxxx>
>Sent: Feb 17, 2011 12:01 PM
>To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] FROM ME...LONG...AS USUAL BUT ...
>
>Patti Cross wrote...<copied and pasted from her original post>
>
>The only thing I found disturbing along with several other people were that we
>witnessed a "top" handler cramming handfuls of pills down the dogs throat
>about
>2 hours before Group judging. I guess they either needed to calm the dog down
>or
>
>"pep" her up. If you are going to do this you should keep the dog in it's
>crate
>so�no one can see you. �As we all stood there in shock we didn't know what
>to
>do. I wonder if the owner knows his dog is being drugged.
>
>
>That my friend will be why my dog will NEVER go away with a handler. Not
>saying
>that all handlers do this, but I am not willing to take the chance of them be
>overdosed on doggie "uppers" or "downers".
>
>Anyway, let's stop and watch the rest of the show, this time I will be on my
>own
>
>couch not in a hotel room.
>
>
>Ok MY RESONSE...first of all, being avid dog owners, breeders, handlers,
>conditioning teams, whatever...how about "Protectors of our Breed" Let me say
>once again in the past thirty days I am so disappointed with people and
>accusations and assumptions and statements...that I truley need to sign off
>this list and just go back
>to the old days of not having immediate information...I for one would have
>maybe 5 people at my back, after reading everything, if I was in need/having a
>problem/
>or in a fight. Maybe it's my Italian upbringing of loyalty...maybe it was
>just good old fashioned upbringing period, I don't know, but...wow, people
>David was right
>in his post, Hellllllllllllllllooooooooooooooo anyone home??? Did this lynch
>mob get enough heads in the sack for this last lynching??? Did you earn browny
>points
>in the right group or click? Did you not think before you wrote...I know it's
>taken me 2 days to write this without going "off" and getting kicked off the
>list period~
>
>Patti clearly said the handler gave it to the animal 2 hours before
>judging...well since she was benched with the GSD people and she named almost
>everyone
>hanging out...except this "top handler" and since this animal was going to the
>group...I GUESS IT DOESN'T TAKE A GENIUS TO FIGURE OUT WHO AND WHAT
>DOG THEY WERE INSINUATING NOW DOES IT?" Now for all you people who say, if
>the dog was that sick that it needed Flagyl to go in the ring...it shouldn't of
>been shown...well, <deep breath> and I am so mad I am shaking so it's not easy
>to write this...bear with me...PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN'T THROW
>STONES"...if you ever have the great opportunity of going to the Garden and
>winning the Breed...after only starting a specialing career, as of the middle
>of January and
>win a breed against some nice dogs...not ones you look at and laugh at and
>think they used to call these clunckers now we call them Champions...but good
>ones (that's a compliment to all who showed) you would then know...if you have
>the right to even make that statement. I for one when Chyna went, had to take
>immodium and my prescribed stomach stuff, because it is so nerve wracking and
>over whelming...imagine the dogs who have no clue as to what is going on, they
>are used to going to shows, in thier own vehicle, put out in thier own Xpen,
>in a field, now they are driven into NYC, hey I lived there, I know, the
>hustle the bustle and the noise. Yes it's a great test on temperment and
>nerves. I know I failed, Leslie wanted to kill me and my friends had to hold
>onto me...Now there's a change of water, flashing camera's, people in your
>face, the dog's face all day, no rest, a bug goes around the show, you can't
>leave, your BENCHED, the dog get's a loose stool....do you now say.....
> .......TO THE OWNER, look she has some loose stool, I don't think we should
> go in the group, but we can have fun watching cause we are stuck here
> anyways....thanks for spending all this money and time...have a good flight
> home...but the bitch is acting normal in every other way. She had to go in
> for private pictures which they did with every breed winner ... in a room on
> a table you would eat on, slippery, not a grooming table and have all of the
> press flashing away...sit there, have people interview you and her. This gets
> old people, not just for us but them...loose stool is nothing .... but
> instead the handler thinks well, we don't want her SHITTING all over the
> carpeting on national TV as they announce the German Shepherd Dog...with the
> world watching...so he gives her some Bil Jac which you use for stuffing
> animals, being she didn't want to eat, (typical woman) and then the Flagyl.
>
> So now there is something in her stomach, which is good for energy for the
> evening...and some flagyl so our whole breed isn't embarrassed....as we all
> watched. The bitch has a fantastic attitude, doesn't need anything to pep her
> up or slow her down as insinuated...how do I know this, cause I was there the
> first time he showed her in Canada and went GVX...and then there in Utah when
> she went 2nd select...and MATURITY VICTRIX...the bitch feeds off of who she
> loves, at those times it WAS HER OWNER...who probably needed something to
> calm down...not the dog...and then now even only after a short time of living
> with her handler, she now adores...HE
>needed something to calm him down, he was a nervous wreck...who wouldn't be
>with a unseasoned new special...I was a wreck with Chyna who also was a Can
>GVX and select and BIS winner...they are dogs, you never know how they are
>gonna act, react and the GARDEN isn't a time or place to just see...
>
>The sad part is...that everyone for the most part was so excited and proud of
>our winner...till that post came on. Don't tell me for one minute no one
>thought it was her...cause I call BS...
>Now for the biggest BS...Patti didn't take it upon herself to call the
>handler...THAT IS A LIE....the handler called her since he knew her since he
>was 9 or 10 years old and asked her what it was that she saw and WHY didn't
>she come to him herself...or go to the Superintendant or REP ??? Patti tell
>the WHOLE STORY....don't keep trying to make yourself look better amoungst
>your peers...........TRUTH IS TRUTH... Also Patti what is so wrong with the
>whole picture is...why wait...take a ProActive action and
>do something ... would you watch a child get molested and say you were so
>horrified that you couldnt' beleive your eyes and you just stood there????
>till days later and then call the news then???
>Now that you ruined a great day for so many people including friends and
>people I call Family...tell everyone what you told Lenny on the phone, what
>you would of done if your dog was lucky enough to win the breed and had
>diahear....I recall the answer was the same
>thing............HUUH>>>>>>>>>>>>and yes I know people my spelling and grammar
>may be off...but I am mad as hell.
>
>Now admin kick me off, I don't care cause if this is what we are on this list
>for...I have better things to do...dogs to get ready for Fut/Mats and kick ass
>with~
>Lenny asked me not to write...cause he knew how mad I was, I met him yesterday
>on the road to give him MY DOG...to go to allbreeds to finish (I hope)... I
>asked him about this
>immediately...and read to him what was going on...he was so hurt by all
>this...especially from the original poster and YOU know it. He feels for Kris
>and Frank, everyone who has been involved by sticking up for the situation
>because who wants to see a MISUNDERSTANDING TURN INTO SUCH A BIG FIGHT AND
>DISCUSSION. Yes it was hurtful and distracted from the actual win...so I don't
>see how this was Proactive to any discussion in a positive light. Forgive me
>for speaking out of turn since I wasn't there, but I know my friend & handler.
>I also would do this for anyone I felt was FAMILY OR FRIENDS. Thank you to
>those like Kathy Tank David Mazzoni, Zoe and Julie who saw through this and
>didn't think the worst. I spoke to George on this this AM and he was furious
>with how people go to the worst and ASS-ume and he even said, this is a sport,
>you prepare for so long to get ready for something like that, if you were
>doing Nascar and your engine blew ... you would go get another engine, not
> conceed and say oh well. I know this is bigger cause it involves a living
> breathing creature, our dogs, but...you do what you gotta do...with what you
> are dealt...I guarentee most people in the Garden had diahreah and took
> something for it...I wonder how they would feel about this crap (no pun
> intended)...
>
>And one last point...Lenny set up with the GSD people, he chose that, he could
>of gone with his buddies in the handlers area, and just hung out there with
>them...but no
>he wanted to be with all of the GSD people...to be part of them...and this is
>what happens. What a group...oh yeah and Patti didn't you say you stayed with
>the GSD people so that you didn't have to be with the Malinois people bitchin
>about judging....so instead you start all this...things that make ya go
>hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
>
>Pissed off NYer at heart!
>Donna Calabrese
>540-856-3647 I'm waiting...
>
>
>Donna M. Calabrese
>Aramist Enterprises
>onaluzlead@xxxxxxx
>new website to come...
>
>
>
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