When they start making more restrictions .....it will become pointless to vote!! We will just follow a rule of protocol on how often....and who should judge and when and if they are "due" whether anyone wants to fly or drive across the Country to exhibit under them or not. Seems to me.....If the people "want" new judges to gain experience at the Nationals then I'm pretty sure the members know how to get a petition going and IF they are the Judge the members want.....they WILL win the vote. If not........so be it. It's our vote! When our National judges are getting there by a rotation 'system'.....most of the actual EXHIBITORS at the National will likely stay home. Those of us driving, flying, bathing, conditioning, training and entering and preparing for the National pretty much know who we want to judge our dogs. Just let us VOTE! No matter what you say and do.....there is always a judge some do not care for. But ........ I still kind of like our system of "freedom" to petition and vote for who we "want". As a local Club....to nominate and vote for the Judges we want As an exhibitor to show under who we want. Now where is my flag!! <G> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx writes: And when we did it that way we had some newer faces judging at the nationals, which appears to be what a lot of people want. ************************************ If that is what a lot of people want, then why don't most people vote the same people? Most people want the best judges possible, no matter if they have judged before or not. Evan L. Ginsburg ************************************************** Also.....keep in mind. Newer, younger judges need to gain experience to be able to judge at a National. Maybe it would be wise to bring a new face on each panel. The GSDCA will eventually run out of experienced breeder judges if they don't provide the opportunity for newer judges. Maybe we should require that one out of 3 conformation judges (for the National) not have judged at the National prior to that year. Kay ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================