Melissa, I was merely expressing an opinion based on the questions and comments I get from the people I deal with. I am totally not painting all American show breeders with one brush. I wish I had the same people calling me about American line pups as you. But, that doesn't happen here. We, as GSD people can pick out the good dogs, the general public cannot. They see one incident that turns them off and that is their perception of today's style of GSD. There are far more good dogs out there, as evidenced by the quality of the animals we see at the Nationals. But how many of the G.P. goes to the Nationals. They see Dallas or Geneva on TV but can't find that same pup in real life. Even if they found that pup, what they have seen at the shows isn't going to make them want to get involved in that venue. So, I was just expressing my own experience with people which is not the personal opinion of the author :-) I like showing. I get frustrated sometimes as does everyone. But, that just makes me do more homework, get the right judges, etc. That is what we show people do. The G.P. doesn't want the hassle or expense. And, we don't do much to convince them otherwise. That was my point. In a message dated 12/5/2006 3:28:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, melanagsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Just seems to be alot of painting of american show dogs/breeders with one brush in this post, that in my experience is the exception rather than the implied majority. There's a whole world out there other then our own small sandbox Laura Thomas www.treasureranchgsds.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================