Ethics is defined as a system of moral principles governing the appropriate conduct for a person or group. Hmmmmm, in a dogs world, because we perceive them to be guileless (but don't really know for sure), I suppose honesty would be their principle. But, with that said, is the greater good served by preventing the dog from being killed while running free? One might argue that the lie about "going for a walk" is trumped by the fact that the dog's life is saved by that lie. About the ball throwing trick....awwww, the humor in it trumps the dog's moral principles. Oh no, maybe we will now get into a heated discussion of a dog's moral principles...lol. Regards, Cynthia --- On Tue, 9/23/08, Elsyd1@xxxxxxx <Elsyd1@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Elsyd1@xxxxxxx <Elsyd1@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Ethics in dogs... To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 1:41 PM There was a very interesting subject today in the Seattle times, in a weekly column called "On Ethics". The writer had a dog escape from his yard, and the dog would not come back when called. The owner got in his car, caught up with his dog, opened the car door, and asked the dog if he wanted to go for a walk. The eager dog (who loved going for a walk) jumped right in, and the owner took him home immediately. No walk. The owner wanted to know if he was being unethical for lying to the dog. The Ethicist said no, because the word "walk" might have had a different meaning to the dog. He also said it is possible to deceive a dog by pretending to throw the ball, (a particular pet peeve of mine, which I think is unethical). What do you think about both scenarios? 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