I know, for a fact, that I have had enough of this argument. It is no longer constructive and will never be sorted out on this list. Regards, Lee Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx> To: <RFWFORGSD@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <PARRKEES@xxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Eileen Parr Show Sec Riv/Sbdo no response > > In a message dated 5/29/2006 8:43:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, RFWFORGSD > writes: > We don't ask our show secretary to send out confirmations before entries > close. > > AKC has well documented guidelines on how to do move ups, class changes, > etc. Most exhibitors. learn to follow those procedures. > > It is against AKC procedures for a Secretary to accept late entries. > Eileen > will not risk loosing her license to accommodate, and we don't ask her > too. > > The show chair (Jean) happens to live in the same house as the President. > A > call to their home will reach either or both of them. >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > That's all ducky that you pointed this out Dick. > We are not talking about sending blanket confirmations, we are talking > about > addressing genuine, legit concerns by exhibitors that may have questions. > Part of her PAID JOB, and something a good show secy KNOWS comes with the > territory, and is usually happy to do. > > In our case a Move up was the least of our concerns , we know the > guidelines > for that, and had you , your show chairman or you SECRETARY actually > understood my previous posts, you would also GET that we had other > concerns , > superceding a simple move up. > > Late entries.....no one expected nor asked her to do so....Don't know > where > you pulled that one out of.?? > > Also by AKC rules the show chair and the PREZ are suppose to have NO > knowledge of entries...so unless you are privy to info that you are NOT > supposed to > be, WHY would anyone call you about entries???? HMMMMMMMM? > > You really aren't getting this...and I am tired of repeating myself in > regards to the problem this club has. The continual defense of problems > and the > legitimate concerns by serious > exhibitors belies a much greater problem in a club than just a show se'cy > problem. > See no evil mentality, I suppose. > > Fortunately I will say this is the ONLY club and the ONLY sec'y we have > ever > encountered with such and attitude. Show sec'ys are in our experience > hard > working , usually volunteers, esp for the Specialties, that deserve > serious > applause. Even the big professional companies like Bradshaw will go OUT > OF > THEIR WAY to address an issue......no excuses, no whining, THEY DO THEIR > JOB. > They are courteous and helpful, and make sometimes confusion on entries > or > worries on whether or not an entry even arrived, a minor issue, one they > are > only TOO happy to clarify for an exhibitor. > > Standing ovation for the truly good Show' Sec'ys the ones that albeit > frustrated and tired , avail themselves to phonecalls or faxes or emails > from > concerned entrants. Thank you to those people > > Kathy > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================