We don't ask our show secretary to send out confirmations before entries close. AKC has well documented guidelines on how to do move ups, class changes, etc. Most exhibitors. learn to follow those procedures. It is against AKC procedures for a Secretary to accept late entries. Eileen will not risk loosing her license to accommodate, and we don't ask her too. The show chair (Jean) happens to live in the same house as the President. A call to their home will reach either or both of them. Dick Whalen President San Bernardino/Riverside GSDC ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In a message dated 5/28/2006 12:58:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx writes: In a message dated 5/28/2006 12:25:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, RFWFORGSD writes: Not one phone call to us by Kathy Why would anyone automatically call the president of any club when it is the SHOW Secy who is responsible for the entries??????? I am not the only person who got NO response from your Show Secy. And yes, Ken did talk to Jean at the show AFTER HE TOLD HER WE HAD TRIED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH EILEEN FOR TWO DAYS BY PHONE, FAX AND EMAIL.. Jean herself admitted that the Show sec'y was gone. NO ONE knows that you were taking entries at the Circuit, because it is not publicized. When Ken said , not joking "this is the only show sec'y in the country you cannot get in touch with" Jean Laughed it off. Ken wasn't laughing and neither was I or others that I have talked to. If you you publicize someone as show sec'y then you would EXPECT them to answer calls, faxes or emails. You would certainly EXPECT them to be available 24-36 HOURS PRIOR TO AND DAY OF CLOSE. IF THEY CANNOT, AND WILL NEVER BE , THEN GET A NEW PERSON OR POST THE ALTERNATE SEC'Y IN THE PREMIUM. As far as contacting you, we did that last year, Dick, as well as your sec'y and our entries NEVER MADE IT IN. SO YOU WILL HAVE TO FORGIVE OUR COMPLETE LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN WORKINGS OF YOUR CLUB. OUR EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS WERE ONLY RETURNED AFTER CLOSE.... Kathy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================