This is not about rumors or nastiness about Jim and Edie, this is about one person, the breeder of record and only her. and her total lack of ethics, who WILL NOT stand behind any of the so far now, seven or eight dysplastic puppies (and counting)of the first three of four breedings. She will not call, console apologize or even SPEAK with any of the owners victimized here. When contacted she is abusive and vulgar and hangs up the phone when her bad behavior and rudeness is questioned. THIS IS ONLY BREEDER ETHICS and in this case of this Washington breeder it is only the latest in a long history of such behavior. All of which is now coming to light, All of which can be documented. This is NOT about Jim and Edie Hall, their dog, or the dam....it is about a Breeder that takes the money but will do NOTHING when a concern or major problem arises. She hides behind "poor old , lady with no money" do not be fooled, this is a slick operator. Kathy Gray ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================