[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: EVAN

  • From: "Liane Fossland" <lfossland@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <rmvw1@xxxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:05:26 -0700

Relax. Evan can handle it. These occasional barbs make him so much more
determined in doing what he does best. 
I personally like to hear what is going on in the world of dogs, mainly
GSD's. The politics connected with this subject are a necessary evil, I
guess.
So far we've had some who want to post on certain subjects and to give their
opinions. Others prefer to post only when they have something to brag about.
And then there are those who are lurking in the corner just waiting for one
to make a mistake and then pounce on this person not knowing how ridiculous
they make themselves look.
It all works perfect. This is a great list.
Lee F.

-----Original Message-----
From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Bob Van Winkle
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 4:55 PM
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: EVAN


Evan,
Please keep on keeping on.  Goodness know these same people =

complaining about the list now, weren't complaining about the list =

when they were running for office. I saw these complainers when they =

were running for office, working the crowds for votes. They told =

people what they wanted to hear to get their votes. They make Irish =

politicians look like amateurs. And I told a couple of them so to =

their faces. I am sure they thought I was joking.  I was not.
 I think you make it very clear where your information came from.
And on a personal level, I enjoy your reporting on the West Coast =

shows.. It give us some insight of the days events.

Regards,
Bob Van Winkle
VANDERWERTH

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showgsd-l Digest        Wed, 25 Jul 2007        Volume: 04  Issue: =

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In This Issue:
        #1:     From: ELG440@xxxxxxx
                Subject:  the person who knows
        #2:     From: ELG440@xxxxxxx
                Subject: The information is avialable
        #3:     From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx
                Subject: Re: Evan
        #4:     From: "Penny & Bill" <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: Re: Race, Dogs and Sports
        #5:     From: Kate Syssoloff <rockannand@xxxxxxx>
                Subject: Re: puppy death
        #6:     From: ELG440@xxxxxxx
                Subject: All you need do is ask
        #7:     From: "Norma Ramey" <gsdramey@xxxxxxx>
                Subject: Re: Evan
        #8:     From: Kate Syssoloff <rockannand@xxxxxxx>
                Subject: Re: I was told by the person who knows

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Msg: #1 in digest
From: ELG440@xxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:33:14 EDT
Subject:  the person who knows

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In a message dated 7/25/07 9:37:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  =

nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Gosh, I  can't help but wonder how information comes out so twisted.
Letters  received which "disallowed wins" from the NW Futurity were =

from  THE
AMERICAN KENNEL CLUB, they were not from me,
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That is what I was told.  I was told they were to return the  awards =

to =

Nancy, which is the right thing to do.  I do think the AKC should  =

have worked with =

the GSDCA on this since it is a club event, but I can't argue  that =

the AKC =

sanctions it, and therefore has the right to act as it did. =

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It is a shame for those animals and the owners who won, but rules =

are  =

important, and if broken do have consequences.
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Msg: #2 in digest
From: ELG440@xxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:36:05 EDT
Subject: The information is avialable

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In a message dated 7/25/07 10:03:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, =

PAGAIRS  writes:
=2E   I really think from now on instead of some listers believing what =
=

Evan is =

 posting...get the facts straight cause Evans facts  arent.


I have never suggested that anyone believe anything I say. It is =

just  what I =

am told, and I try to say where I hear it. I know that Gary now has =

the  =

information about the photography at the National, and I have asked =

him to post  =

it, so that everyone will know what is going on. I know it, because =

Gary told =

me  so.
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As I said, it was to be limited, but evidently that was a mistake, =

not by  =

me, but by the report. Gary and the board will take care of it. It =

would be nice =

 if he or someone else who has the report would let everyone know =

what caused =

the  problem.
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Msg: #3 in digest
From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:36:26 EDT
Subject: Re: Evan

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In a message dated 7/25/2007 1:24:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  =

gsprock@xxxxxxx writes:
If  I had to make a short list of people I would believe
unconditionally,  Evan would be at the top of that list.
He is an asset to the club,  and to his many friends too.

=3D96Gail



I second that Gail!
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Msg: #4 in digest
From: "Penny & Bill" <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Race, Dogs and Sports
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:37:38 -0400

Flowerboy,
When you're right (and that's most times) you're right.  Morality, =

goodness, what's right (and wrong) are NOT dictated by race, hip, =

hop, middle class or ANY class.  Parents try and sometimes don't =

succeed in  instilling good moral values in their kids. =

Penny in NY
********************* =

Vick did what he did cuz that's who he is and that's what he wanted =

to do....plan and simple...life is simple, we just go out of our way =

to complicate it...Ed Hill


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Msg: #5 in digest
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:36:58 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
From: Kate Syssoloff <rockannand@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: puppy death

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Msg: #6 in digest
From: ELG440@xxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:39:11 EDT
Subject: All you need do is ask

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In a message dated 7/25/07 10:29:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  =

PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx writes:
I think  Evan really needs to either quit reporting =




Everyone has an opinion. I sure do appreciate Gary's.   While so far =

I don't =

agree with him, if enough people do, I will go along with  it.
 =

I think blaming the List for running the club is much like  blaming =

Talk =

Radio for running America.  Reporting what is going on does  not make =

it true or =

important. Information is to be received, considered, and  then given =

the =

weight it deserves. Nothing else.
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Instead of asking for someone to quit reporting, why not report what =

you  =

know, and let others decide what to listen to?  It seems to be what  =

democracy is =

based on, but I could be wrong.
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I will check with Larry Flynt.

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Msg: #7 in digest
From: "Norma Ramey" <gsdramey@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Evan
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:38:56 -0500

I'll glady second the mostion, Gail.  He's an asset to Da List or =

what ever =

this is as well.
The man has gone way beyond the call of duty in many cases for German =

Shepherd
Dogs and their people.   Not to worry folks, all will be well and =

come out =

in the (magic)
Bye for now.       Norma no L
----- Original Message ----- =

From: "Gail Sprock" <gsprock@xxxxxxx>
To: "ShowGSD List" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 12:56 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Evan


If I had to make a short list of people I would believe
unconditionally, Evan would be at the top of that list.
He is an asset to the club, and to his many friends too.

=3D96Gail



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Msg: #8 in digest
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:41:42 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
From: Kate Syssoloff <rockannand@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: I was told by the person who knows

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Nancy, I did not State any of the information below.  My email addy =

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