In a message dated 1/23/2007 11:56:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Jonah.gsd@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Howdy Folks, Can anyone out there give me advice on this? Leo is a 2&1/2 year old male who was the picture of health until one month ago when he had his first seisure. He has had several since then. When he comes out of the seisure, he becomes very violent. He is on medication, which has been increased one and a half times the original dose, but it is not stopping the seisures. His owners are considering putting him down. He is a beloved family member and they are heart broken! Their vet says this is not hereditary. Any info on that? Is there any hope for Leo? TIA, Joan Can we assume that the dog has had a complete work up to rule out another cause for seizures (tumor?)? That said, he's male (more likely than females), and the right age and I don't know where they found a vet to say it isn't hereditary; is most certainly IS an inherited issue. (In fact, the CHF is looking for the DNA marker). Here's more info, but you don't need to take my word for it; if you google epilepsy, or epilepsy in GSDs or inherited issues you'll literally find thousands of sites. _http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_seizure_disorder.html_ (http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_seizure_disorder.html) Now, as far as the rage when he comes out of a seizure...I dealt with this in a puppy I bought (then he was placed re. a replacement clause when he wasn't a "show dog", then he developed epilepsy at about 2), and all involved made the decision to put him to sleep. Unless you've had to deal with a dog violently coming out of a seizure, you just can't believe it. In a portion of the cases, drugs can't control this, and quite simply, somebody was going to get badly, badly hurt. I wouldn't fool with it, especially if there is a family, children, etc. How would they feel if they were trying to regulate meds and a child was maimed? Really, I can't overstate this; it's that bad. They don't know you, you can't reach them, they are absolutely out of control and it's like picturing the worst dog fight you've ever seen with maybe a person right in the middle of it. (It's not at ALL like when they look weak, tired, confused and you pet and reassure them.) My heart goes out to the family. (And I wouldn't repeat the breeding.) Kathy member GSDCA, DVGSDC three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================