[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: EPI

  • From: Deb Sullivan <victorysbullseye@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: wendygsd@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:39:39 -0800 (PST)

Bull  was 5.1 last test... maybe you should ask texas A and M what is high for 
GSDs if you like I will
Deb
 
Deb and her Boys 
Victory's Bullseye,TT.,CGC.,CD,ASCACD. 
Victory's Dubh Mac Tire, CGC(Wolf) 01/23/05-03/28/2007,lost to PAA/EPI
Montauk Sue's Red Codiak
 
 




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From: "wendygsd@xxxxxxxxxxx" <wendygsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2009 4:40:16 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: EPI

<Ginger wrote.....
I was told by a vet in Phoenix that the "normal" for GSDs would be considered 
affected in most other breeds. In other words... GSDs typically have lower 
enzyme count than most other breeds. What they would consider a normal count in 
a GSD would mean a dog in most other breeds would have EPI. Something to 
consider for sure.>
I was told the same thing by a vet when I brought my 8-9 month old boy in after 
repeated soft stools.  He would have one good one a day, and one very soft 
one.  (I later found out that this is common in the beginning of EPI.  My vet 
ran the TLI test and the score was 5.2, and he told me just what Ginger 
said.....that ALL GSD's score on the low side and that he was fine.  I played 
games, changing foods for probably a couple of years before his stools got 
horrible and he was constantly ravenous.  Knowing what these signs meant,  I 
bought some Pancreatin 8x (equivalent to Viokase but much cheaper) from a 
vitamin store on line and I got him back on track.  
When the National was in Colorado (I think) the health foundation was 
requesting donors for an EPI study.  They wanted dogs with EPI and older dogs 
without.  I took two vials for blood, and submitted them when  I got home:  one 
for my 6+ yr. old EPI dog, and one for a 9+ yr. old healthy dog.  My EPI dog 
scored .2!!  However, surprisingly, my other dog scored a 5.2, and NEVER has 
soft stools.  They said it was indicative of a dog that had pancreatitis 
attacks (of which she'd had none), so I'm still a bit confused.  My boy with 
EPI is now going on 8 and requires a lot of enzymes, and my girl is still a 
healthy 10-1/2....constipated most of the time!!  Go figure.....maybe the 
numbers go down with age anyway??  Has anyone else tested a healthy old dog and 
gotten really high numbers??  In fact, what are considered high for a GSD?
Wendy in NH
Cheeryo    

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