I agree with Julie. Unfortunately, winning seems to be the ONLY reason some people show. Sure, it's great to win, but at what cost? At the cost of a dog's life? Dyeing, drugging, breaking tails, finishing fast. . .only to have the dog DROP DEAD at 2 or younger because the breeder/exhibitor/handler didn't pay attention to the obvious "problem lines" in the pedigree? Oh but it's BIG BUSINESS-- sell for thousands--something goes wrong--it's NOW the owners' problems. Believe me, I've gone through that. Some breeders don't want to know you if you have a problem. All they care about is the next star and the next big win. And when some dogs do finish but have outlived their usefulness, what happens? I've heard of whole kennels being put down. Sickening. Like I said before, I don't know the answer--but drug testing and hair sampling MIGHT be a start. Penny As for dying and drugs...well it's all part of this busines thing...I think a lot of people just don't care about the health of this breed. All that is important is winning. Some people are in this for the wrong reasons..winning ribbons at all cost so that will boost their selfesteem!! Too bad so sad for this wonderful breed. I'm all for testing if it can be done. Health registry where we can see why those dogs passes away so young and see the ones that have good health and live 13th years. I think it's time we get our heads out of the sand and start acting on those issues. From hiding those things we are not helping this breed. IMHO Julie ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================