It is hard to concentrate on both, time and money wise. Denise Williams Chopper, Chase, Phoenix and Flare http://www.showgermanshepherds.info for show and performance ________________________________ From: Mary-Anne <versatilegsds@xxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ejdegen@xxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 12:34 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Dual titled dogs Julie raises a very important point. Those of us who pursue performance titles with our dogs have to pick and choose which sports we will do at which time. The pursuit of all these titles entails weekends after weekends after weekends and it truly does depend where you live. Up here in the North Country, I have two agility trials per year (CKC) to choose from, 3 Tracking Tests, 2 Rally O Trial Weekends, 3 Obedience Trial Weekends and 1 Conformation Show weekend and no Herding weekends. To get anywhere where there is the possibility of regular showing or trialling is a 5 hour drive for me. There are basically 11 workable weekends in a year (up here we get winter rather early) and trying to fit everything in is almost impossible. So it takes time and money and committment to get titles on both ends. We do what we can with the time, money and distance to travel. Mary-Anne Misty C C Mistral of Waldenridge CGN CD TD AGN RE RA(CL) TEC HIC SGDC 26 June 2001-1 August 2010 Magnum Tersha's Magnum Force CGN PCD CD TDX UTD AGN AGNJ AGNJS RE RN(CL) N-TDX TEC HIC Riikka VP Frederika vom Kirschental HIC -----Original Message----- From: Julie Degen Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:43 AM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Dual titled dogs Sara, I never have seen you post where (what part of the country) you're actually from. You looked at one month of the Review. Look further. Check the Red Book for lists of dual titled dogs. I personally have owned/trained 3 GSD champions who have earned their PAMs. In case you aren't familiar with that, it requires a dog to have an advanced title in at least one performance sport and also be titled in 2 additional sports. There are other CH PAM dogs and other CHs with advanced titles. Winners Dog from the national this year just recently got his TDX and is training in agility. Don't judge all American champions on titles that you're NOT seeing though, Training dogs and then trialing them takes time & dedication & money. So does showing dogs in the breed ring. Sometimes people have to choose what they want to do with their time & money! I've been in GSDs for 25 years and although I've had a limited number of dogs (which is why they've all had advanced performance titles) I've never had trouble finding one that could play the sports I choose. I just wish I had more TIME for all of them!!! Right now I have 4 dogs of my own that are all being trained, trialed, and/or shown in multiple sports. Only 2 of them are GSDs, but they all take time and MONEY!!! For example, One of my dogs was entered a few weeks ago in Herding Intermediate, after hearing from several people rumors about the sheep at that trial facility, I decided to pull his entry (before closing) and spent the money to go to a tracking seminar instead (which the weekend that I was at the tracking seminar, I missed out on 3 days of agility with 3 of my dogs and a breed show with one...decisions). My daughter is currently specialing and doing Juniors with one of my dogs (not a GSD tho) which requires some choosing where we're going to go in weekends since I'm also showing that same dog in agility... Again, all of which takes time and more MONEY. I also co-own a wonderful bitch (breed champion who was HIT in herding at the national this year) that I would like to get ready for more herding, but she's also being worked in rally & obedience by one of her other owners....and we would like to breed her this year but when we do, we'll lose about another 6 months of training. Sometimes you have to balance what you're doing and sometimes you just have to make hard decisions and choose what's important to you at the time. Julie Degen www.caissonkennels.com Sent from my iPhone On Dec 7, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > As I flip through the Review, I don't see any recent CH or Select dogs > with > advanced performance titles? Just putting a RN on a dog doesn't make it > a high > level working performance dog!! ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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