See, always something new to learn!! I've lived with those 3 and, yep, they are pretty smart and active too. I guess the folks are a little more "discrete" with their doubling on them. Now, I'll need to watch closer. TNX Norma no L ----- Original Message ----- From: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx To: gsdramey@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Doubling, training etc. In a message dated 12/4/2007 1:10:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, gsdramey@xxxxxxx writes: The doubling stuff is a GSD exclusive and I've shared my feelings concerning same. *********************************************** I am going to have to disagree with you on this one. I judge Dobes, Boxer and Great Danes and trust me they double handle. It is just that the GSD for some reason has had this terrible reputation for years and they are watched closely. Lee Check out AOL Money & Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================