no – EACH AND EVERY ONE is different! I LIVED WITH A WOLF FOR 14 YEARS AND THE
I COULD SEE –EVERY DAY- THE BLOOD CONNECTION WITH THE MANY MANY dogs I WAS IN
CONTACT WITH FOR MANY REASONS – #1 – MY OWN #2 THE BOARDERS #3 THE RESCUES
ETC/ ETC/
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Dogs vs. the wolf in intelligence
You will never domesticate a wolf. They have the same ancestors, but they are
not the same.
That is like saying a tiger is like a kitten. I don't care how much you work
with the tiger, he will never want to sit on your lap, or be tame. Just ask
Roy.
Evan
http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/
http://www.dogshowjuniors.com/GSYRFindex.asp
http://asgardgermanshepherd.com/
In a message dated 9/13/2016 2:48:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
There are lots of differences between wolves and dogs, just as there are lots
of differences between Great Danes and basset hounds, still all of them are of
the same species! Domestication is something done by humans. Ed
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Sent: September 13, 2016 at 2:34 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Dogs vs. the wolf in intelligence
As someone who had a friend that always owned a wolf, I can tell you there
is a difference. A wolf is never domesticated. A dog most often is.
You can get a wolf to put up with you, but they remain a wild animal.
Evan
http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/
http://www.dogshowjuniors.com/GSYRFindex.asp
http://asgardgermanshepherd.com/
In a message dated 9/13/2016 10:21:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Dogs ARE wolves ( they really and truly are) Ed
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From: john lacher
To: kathy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: freelist
Sent: September 13, 2016 at 9:16 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Dogs vs. the wolf in intelligence
Kathy,
I also wanted to thank you Thanks for breaking that block of ice that
has made the last couple of weeks so COLD on the listserve.
John Lacher
john.lacher@xxxxxxxxx
On Sep 12, 2016, at 9:10 AM, <kathy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<kathy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dogs Are Less Likely Than Wolves to Solve Problems on Their Own
A recent study involved 10 pet dogs, 10 shelter dogs and 10 wolves
given three opportunities to open a puzzle box (a covered plastic container
containing a bit of sausage, with a rope that would open the box when pulled).4
The animals were given access to the puzzle boxes under different
scenarios. In one test, the animals were left alone with the box for 2 minutes.
Eight of the wolves opened the box during this test, compared to one shelter
dog and no pet dogs.
In the next test, the animals were given access to the puzzle with an
experimenter standing nearby. The results were nearly identical: eight wolves
succeeded in opening the box as did one pet dog, but no shelter dogs solved the
puzzle.
Of note, the dogs spent much more time gazing at the human than the
wolves did. The dogs that had previously failed to open the puzzle box were
then given another chance, during which a human used gestures and spoke
positively to encourage the dogs to keep trying.
This time, four of the shelter dogs and one pet dog solved the
puzzle, and all the dogs spent much more time trying to solve the puzzle than
they had previously.
While the wolves are persistent and independent, working hard to
solve the problem on their own with little notice or expectation of help from
humans, dogs “prefer a social cognitive solution,” Udell said, meaning they
prefer to get help from their owner.
This is in part our “fault,” since we so often tell our dogs what to
do and, more often, what not to do. Udell told Science:5
“It’s not that dogs can’t do it … But they don’t even try unless
they’re socially motivated … We tell them not to do things, so they learn to
inhibit their actions and to wait for directions from us …
The pet dogs seem to err on the side of caution, even though solving
the problem independently would be fine, and their owner is telling them that
it’s okay.”
I found this to be extremely interesting and of course wondered if
any of the dogs were German shepherd. Kathy Partch www.JoKaySedona.com
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