It's amazing to hear all of the different stories with dogs getting in to it with each other. It happens with all animals. Some are just simple arguments that are handled respectfully by the animals themselves, or fights that can be extremely serious situations. I'm sure you've noticed that human nature in many ways do the same as animals when fighting. What does that mean? Is it only about the strongest and the luckiest that survive? Kathy www.JoKaySedona.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Msg: #1 in digest Subject: Dog fights From: Anja Heibloem-Stroud <anja_heibloem-stroud@xxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 16:41:21 -0700 The last two dog fights I used a shovel over the head of the aggressor. One was at a customers house when her pit bull got out of the house and a stray pit bull in the yard decided to kill one another. Doggy mace does not work, neither did water from the hose. Hell I even blew propane at them and they weren't quitting. Finally beat them into submission. Sorry to say I'm not a fan of put bulls. Another was two of my own males. I screwed up and both got loose. The aggressor had the other one by the throat and not letting go. Even dumped them off the deck. Shovel saved the one on the bottom and once I had them separate I ordered the one into the house and the other into the kennel. Found a home for the aggressive one. Anja =========================================================================== Msg: #5 in digest Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 22:58:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Kate Syssoloff <rockannand@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Dog fights I just had a dog fight yesterday, or should I say they had an argument. The aggressor found a kennel hatch unlocked and slipped through into the run where our other male was. I heard the commotion and came flying out of the house. Luckily the aggressor is totally focused on me and came whipping into the kennel when I entered, showing a slashed lower eyelid which wasn't as bad as it looked. Off to the vet for a $325. couple of stitches and meds. The other dog was only bruised with a bit of swelling around his face. I've broken up fights before but was with another handler who also knew and used the same technique and we both went for our dog's hind legs lifting them off the ground, arse in the air. Dogs need their hind legs to fight, and I remember flipping over backwards and rolling into the middle of 12th Avenue in Vancouver, dog on my chest. It works, but you have to be quick and strong. Kate Syssoloff Rockannand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anja Heibloem-Stroud" <anja_heibloem-stroud@xxxxxxx> To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, 25 September, 2014 4:41:21 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Dog fights The last two dog fights I used a shovel over the head of the aggressor. One was at a customers house when her pit bull got out of the house and a stray pit bull in the yard decided to kill one another. Doggy mace does not work, neither did water from the hose. Hell I even blew propane at them and they weren't quitting. Finally beat them into submission. Sorry to say I'm not a fan of put bulls. Another was two of my own males. I screwed up and both got loose. The aggressor had the other one by the throat and not letting go. Even dumped them off the deck. Shovel saved the one on the bottom and once I had them separate I ordered the one into the house and the other into the kennel. Found a home for the aggressive one. Anja ********** ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================