Kathy - unfortunately, the WS folks aren't concerned with breeding to colored stock. They see nothing wrong with breeding white to white and making the gene pool smaller. The main WS lines are all related, some very closely. They will not see this as a loss of possible genes because they only have their eye on the prize ... breed separation. They have had 16 years to make plans for the day they separate but very few WS breeders have added any new, unrelated blood to their breeding programs. The people, like me, who are against breed separation want whites who look and move like GSDs. Colored lines are utilized. We recognize the need to keep the gene pool healthy, and how new blood is needed. Yesterday was a sad day for all whites, whether WS or GSD. Barb H - PA -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Mon, Aug 1, 2011 1:48 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Do the white thing Hi Guys, ust briefly read the vote on whites... don't see the harm really ...except for maybe to the white dogs, and hatever the new breed would be called. f the whites are a separate breed, this means they can no longer be bred to "our " dogs? It would seem t would be the white dogs losing a valuable asset, not the other way round? Just wondering athy http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com* <http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/>**UPDATED: July 20**, 2011* Home of: H. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs H. Victory's Leviathan H. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle * Victory...*Vires et honestas" n Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:23 AM, <ELG440@xxxxxxx> wrote: > In a message dated 8/1/11 5:07:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes: I've never seen the harm in this. Other countries have done it. We kept whites in limbo, not allowing them to leave but not allowing them to participate in the breed ring either. If we weren't going to allow them to compete, why not allow them to go their separate way? Good for you. We are a new group, and we need new thinking. I have stayed out of this argument for years, and I stand behind our board. =========================================================================== OST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its dministrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any ost. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER F ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL ARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A IOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html ATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================