I have a quick question. Is it possible that a dog with a compromised immune system can suffer from chronic demodex mange? And if this is true, could such an immunity problem be inherited? In other words, could there be two separate scenarios for this type of mange? One caused by an unusual amount of stress in a dog's life. One caused by an immunity problem such as Lupus or a similar auto-immune problem that could possibly be inherited? Just trying to learn! Thanks! Gayle & the Hooligans! http://www.picturetrail.com/arycrest - Link to The Hooligans Albums ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Norma Ramey" <gsdramey@xxxxxxx> To: <luvshepherds@xxxxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Demodex Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 09:10:55 -0500 Marcia & Everybody; The PRIVATE responses I received from the many Listers who KNOW has been very wonderful concerning this. Personally, if I were you and had this dog, I'd do 2 things: #1 Take him to a different Vet and get scrapings etc. for a new diagnosis. Hey, he's 6 years old now and it wouldn't be ongoing for so long if proper attention was given; IMHO! #2 Change his living quarters in a manner whereby he isn't exposed to the same old same old & not only treat his body but the areas around him. These are "mites" microscopic BUGS and do reproduce continually, if not stopped completely. Please know it has NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY GENES OR BLOODLINES AT ALL. As I said, when Vet says it comes from the dam it is not through the genes but through DIRECT CONTACT WHEN NURSING! If you do not believe what I say, then do your own investigating etc. and find out for yourself. I am so sorry this has continued to be a misunderstanding between the innocent public and the animal medical profession; but it has been going on for a long long time. Why, I have no idea! Thanks for sharing and I know that dogs like Marcia's have a chance if given same in a new way. Norma (Ok, I'll lurk -- a bit but do the homework on your own folks) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcia Warshauer" <luvshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:55 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Demodex Ah, glad this subject came up --- for all of you who need to know the TRUTH ABOUT MANGE! ****************************************************************** My boy will be 6 years old this month and has recurring bouts with Demodex mange. I "manage" it with Ivomec. Let me tell you, this is heartbreaking and should NOT be passed on by the bitch. I love this boy and it breaks my heart when it comes back again and again. It is so frequent now, about 2 to 3 times a year and it takes weeks to get rid of it. I hear it gets worse the older they get. OMG, I hope not. I wish there were another way of treating it. The last time he had a dip, he had a reaction to it so I just give him the Ivomec. A few months ago it was so bad that the pads of his paws were bleeding. I kept putting my thick bottomed socks on him wrapped with vet wrap and Neosporin. It was awful. This went on and on. AWFUL!!! DON'T breed a bitch with Demodex PLEASE!!! Marcia, Norco, CA. ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. 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